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Any idea why I get this beyond obvious such as poor circulation. Is there anything I can do regarding my boots? I've always felt the boots are a bit on the tight side.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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To the cost of sounding obvious... go and see a bootfitter. It may well be that the boots can be adapted.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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brianr, if you can't get it right, well worth investing in some electric boot heaters. They stop your feet getting cold (rather than making them warm, if you see what I mean).
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brianr, could be your socks, could be over buckling, could be circulation as a root cause or as a consequence of socks or buckles or boot fit. I agree with oldmancoyote, go chat to a bootfitter, you might need a little adjustment made. 
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Felt like I was getting frost bite in my toes last year. Stuck those 'little hottie' hand warmers under my toes in my boots and i was fine afterwards. I think this is the most effective and also cheapest solution.
I also think it would of probably helped if I wore thermal leggings too.
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brianr, there are a few things that could cause it, the most common are either lack of flexion at the ankle joint which loads up the ball of your foot and sending your toes numb, or pressure coming from above cutting the blood flow off at the instep
have you got
a good footbed
a boot the right size/shape/volume for your foot
a thin wool based sock
if the cold/numbness is coming form either of the above then do not waste your money on a boot heater IT WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM
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Most people who get cold toes end up riding with boot heaters. I don't think the tea-bag things are hugely useful unless you like the idea of taking your boots off through the day - I have never needed any of that stuff, but lots of people swear by boot heaters.
Some people use neoprene boot covers. I've no idea if they're any good, I'm not convinced they're effective.
Otherwise, can you wiggle your toes? If the answer's "no" then that's your problem right there - visit boot fitter, get the toe box enlarged. If you can, then, well if it's really cold you have to wiggle your toes. Whenever you're hanging about, just do that and you can save a ton of money on gadgets and stuff.
Some people do their boots up too tight also.
If it's squeaky cold (minus 30 or worse) head inside every so often to warm up.
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At the risk of sounding like a massive rookie - What the hell is a CEM??!
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RichTraff, ,CEM, is a boot fitter with a great rep.
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Yup, go see a boot-fitter before buying anything like boot heaters or covers. The answer could be as simple as the way you put on your boots - believe it or not. There is a good article on that on Epicksi.
In many cases, the issue is the boots are too big and/or the liners are packed out. The wearer then compensates by doing up the forefoot buckles too tightly, crushing the dorsal nerves, leading to the sensation of cold feet.
If all that fails, get your vascular system checked out.
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| RichTraff wrote: |
| At the risk of sounding like a massive rookie - What the hell is a CEM??! |
Colin E Martin founder / owner of www.solutions4feet.co.uk
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Something I tryed last season was layering leg thermals so as to overdo the lower leg body heat a little.
Then go lighter ( if need be at any point during the day) on the core body area to regulate temps but keeping the legs constantly cooking or importantly retaining leg heat at higher elavation.
Keeping the legs warmer through temp swings while on covered and uncovered chairs in dec/jan above 2700m was the goal (which is very different to dressing inside a heated hotel room at 1500m.)
In the end I was opening doors and windows in the room when getting ready and could,nt wear a jacket initially till outside but my lower legs were better off hot up high.
Just used sngle thin/meduim smartwool socks though.
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Wed 5-12-12 14:38; edited 2 times in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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try and have your boots a bit warm before putting them on (turkey heater, footwell of car with heater on etc), and dont clamp them down to your "final" position first off, a couple of runs with them as loose as you can manage will help, then when you clamp them further it'll be easier (back to having the boot warm - cold just stiffens everything up), and you should stay toasty - I have similar problems with cold tootsies, and routine is just as described)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If it is just coldness, the cheapest simplest solution is neoprene boot covers. They do two things - they keep out the snow, which can lead to cold if your feet get wet, and they insulate to keep whatever warmth you have got in. I am fairly convinced that A is more important than B, and Mrs M tried a DIY pair last season and had to take them off because her feet got too hot.
Make your own, easy to do, and frankly it is the cheapest available solution to cold feet. http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=71767
£100+ for boot heaters, or £30 for boot covers that you could use with them if it came to it? Try the cheap solution first.
If it is the fit of your boots affecting circulation, which is entirely possible, then no amount of warming up is going to help.
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brianr, I find a large part of a solution is to make sure your boots are warm and dry prior to starting to day. I invested in a boot drier which also warms the boot slightly. Left in the boots overnight it makes a huge diffference. You might need to lay a piece of newspaper on the floor of the appt. but it's well worth taking the boots back to room with you to use it.
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If you also have cold hands and white fingers it may be Raynaud's but lets not cross that bridge.
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Ooh... this is a good thread for me: I write this having just been thrown off the jiu jitsu mat for having toes the wrong shade of white, which were freaking the instructors out. They've returned to normal now... but I assume that means in my case it would be circulation, and foot warmer the only answer? (I tend to ignore when skiing, and just loosen boots and jiggle on the lift when REALLy cold. It's not a problem in normal 'warm' skiing, just when it gets psb cold.)
Or worth seeing a boot fitter to check? Who in London is good?
Relatedly, I do have a friend with Raynaud's - she wants to try skiing, but thinks she shouldn't... is it manageable, or should she just avoid getting addicted?
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OliviaDB, I know 3 people with it that ski
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OliviaDB, reynauds is no reason not to ski, it can make the experience uncomfortable at times, but lots can be done in terms of all the things listed above, or a doctor can prescribe some medication to help blood flow, there are also a few creams and potions out there that can be rubbed onto the foot which help with circulation. a well fitted pair of boots is a great starting point
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OliviaDB, my wife suffers from Reynaud's. She has boot sole warmers (which are now just marginally performing) and heated glove liners from a motorbikeshop. These can be accompanied by heated socks on the same power supplywhich may need to be pressed into actionif thefoot situation deteriorates. Company is Italian and called Klan.
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