 Poster: A snowHead
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Boots are expensive things. Mine (Head 8.8 ) are comfy and I can ski all day in them without sore feet - this is a huge plus to sticking with what I have. I also like VFM, and I am not keen on spending cash on expensive things like boots if what I have still have life left in them. On the other hand they are still my very first beginner boots, but they were tightened up a few years ago and now seem a good fit with all the extra padding that was added. I don't know if a good fit is achieved with the addition of padding if this is as good as boots that fit without it though. Oh, and did I mention that they are comfy?
I have been doing some totting up, I bought them in January 2007 and so far they have done (at least that I can remember positively, it may be more) 10 full weeks (mostly 8 days each time) skiing, plus the odd 3-4 hr stints in snowdomes and a long weekend in resort.
They are still comfy!! 
How much more skiing do you think they have in them?
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sat 22-09-12 9:10; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Much more than 10 weeks!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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When taking them off feels better than sex.
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How much more skiing do you think they have in them?
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plenty. When you have to wear several pairs of socks to try to stop your feet moving around too much, get some new ones. One pair of mine told me they were packed down when they made my ankles sore if I had to skate any distance, because there was too much room for my feet to move. Or if you edge your foot and the ski stays flat.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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When you are skiing do you ski aggressively , and what sort of distance do you cover?
Are you happy with how they perform, or do you feel you are not in control in turns?
Have you gone to a boot fitter for new liners?
Do you like the look of them?
If they are comfortable and you are skiing in your ability , keep them.
You are not a racer???!
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Sat 22-09-12 0:59; edited 1 time in total
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Oh one pair if socks right, you are not a depressed pensioner.
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If you have had to put extra padding in them then they probably weren't the right size when you bought them.
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Megamum, I reckon 120 ski days per liner and 2 liners per shell if I really like the shell.
Personally, I change liner when they become just too awfully smelly (generally diagnosed by OH refusing to share a car or room with them).
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Megamum, I reckon 120 ski days per liner and 2 liners per shell if I really like the shell.
Personally, I change liner when they become just too awfully smelly (generally diagnosed by OH refusing to share a car or room with them). |
I think the time to change liners is when the smell has reached the point that the boots can walk by themselves... 
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Alastair Pink, You just need to know how to break them in at that point and you can easily get a good few more ski days out of them.
It get's a little embarrassing when you have a little snooze after a well earned lunch and awaken to find them campaigning to the UN for their own nation state.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Sounds like they will do me for a while longer yet then - Cheers folks.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Megamum, I reckon 120 ski days per liner and 2 liners per shell if I really like the shell.
Personally, I change liner when they become just too awfully smelly (generally diagnosed by OH refusing to share a car or room with them). |
I think the time to change liners is when the smell has reached the point that the boots can walk by themselves... |
Just take the liners out and stick them in the washing machine. Good as new.
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Megamum,
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I also like VFM, and I am not keen on spending cash
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I'm told people like you can do the following
Go to a specialist boot fitter find the ones you like, note carefully which boots they are, tell them you will think about it and then buy on e bay.
Last edited by So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much  on Sat 22-09-12 9:58; edited 1 time in total
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You know it makes sense.
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Megamum, Your boots have an accessory, a changeable base board with Plastic wings that reduce volume all around the foot. If you don't have them, you could contact a head supplier to get you a pair, it's a very easy modification requiring only a screwdriver.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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northernsoulboy, I really don't think my liners are designed for that.
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Poster: A snowHead
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120-150 days per liner - unlimited liners per shell until shell plastics degrade and the boot isn't flexing properly.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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^^ Or until sole is worn down (from walking etc) and won't connect properly with bindings (lots of boots have replaceable soles though).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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CH2O,
Hmm interesting, do the edge 11 have this as well, If so is it the black plasticky bit on the sole ( very technical jargon ) you can see when you pull out the liner, if so how do you do what to it to reduce volume. Thanks
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CH2O, I didn't know that - it could be worth trying if the existing padding packs down.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| northernsoulboy, I really don't think my liners are designed for that. |
Why not? I assume they're removable (I've not seen a modern pair of boots where the inners aren't)?
Why are they removable? To allow you to wash them.
Only two ways of washing them - by hand or in the machine.
Obviously, nothing stopping you washing them by hand - I just prefer the machine. (Obviously on a cool wash.)
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northernsoulboy, They are not removable to allow you to wash them.
The cnstruction is too complicated to allow proper washing and rinsing anyway.
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Colin at solutions4feet reckons says all liners will eventually become too squashed from their original shape. 15 weeks poss. Boots will eventually lose their structural integrity due to the plastic's exposure to sunlight. I did 40-50 weeks in my last pair and you could feel the sides were beginning to collapse on edging - I kept them too long - left in a ski bar with pint glasses in the top after drinking to theor memory. 20-30 weeks and I would change boots
Current boots are great and Colin sold me a second pair cheap (molded) and these are waiting for when my current boots reach 30 ish weeks. probably at end of 2012-3 season
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northernsoulboy, They are not removable to allow you to wash them.
The cnstruction is too complicated to allow proper washing and rinsing anyway. |
There is nothing 'complicated' about the construction of a ski boot inner, at least none of those I've had.
But, OK, I don't want to get into an argument or hijack the thread, so this will be my last word on it. I guess it's each to his own.
All I can say is that I wash my boot inners on a cool wash in the washing machine and have been doing that for decades now.
They come up as fresh as the day they were bought, and, believe me, my inners are like a ripe camembert after a week or two.
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