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Which resorts have the longest runs (Miles or Kilometres) ?
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Sarenne in Alpe d'Huez - 11km, IIRC
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3 of the longest pistes which I've skied are:

1.The Sarenne run in Alpe d'Huez which is a 16km long black run with 2210 metres vertical drop (although only the first part is actually a black, the latter part is quite gentle).

2. The red Ventina (No.7) run in Cervinia which I believe is 7.5km long and has a vertical drop of 1800 metres.

3. The red Seceda run No.2 in Val Gardena down to Ortisei/St Ulrich which is 10.5 km long and 1230 metres vertical drop.

Edit: All the above are a single piste name or number on the relevant piste map, obviously if you include resorts where several different piste names/numbers combine to give a longer run and bigger overall vertical descent then there are many more e.g From the top of the Schilthorn above Murren all the way down to Lauterbrunnen (if snow conditions permit) is 16km long with a vertical drop of 2200 metres.


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Surely the question should be which has the biggest vertical drop as the longest run is going to be the flattest way down the mountain
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Alastair Pink wrote:
3. The red Seceda run No.2 in Val Gardena down to Ortisei/St Ulrich which is 10.5 km long and 1230 metres vertical drop.


The 'James Bond' run. Cool
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Can't remember the exact name but from the top of Les Arcs to Villaroger (down the black and then the red and then the black I think) is over 2000m of vertical...
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I thought the run from the top at Cervinia down to Valtournenche was 22km, or isn't it classified as one run? It must have a drop of well over 2000m too. It doesn't half blow the cobwebs away first thing in the morning. Last time I was in Zermatt I got the first lift up and after skiing down from the top I was having coffee in Valtournenche by 10.
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12km ish, very gentle run in Borovets
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My favourites:-

1. Top of Schindlergratbahn down to Stuben (Arlberg)

2. Top Mont Fort, over glacier and down Tortin (Verbier)

3. Aguille Percee down to Tignes Le Brevieres (Tignes)

4. Grande Motte down to Tignes

5. Vallee Blanche chamonix

6. Top Valluga down to St Anton (Weisse Rausch course)

7. Vallon D'arby (Verbier)

8. Mont Gele down to Tortin

Too many others to list but the above are the dogz Toofy Grin
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At Les Deux Alpes from the top of the glacier (3600m) down to Mont de Lans (1300m) is 2300m vertical. I'm not certain if you can do it without getting a lift at all, I think you can. No idea of how many kms it is, It would depend which route you took.
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The run from the Weissfluhgipfel in Davos down to Kublis is 12km and 2,000m vertical. And you can also ski on mostly intermediate runs (after the very first bit) direct to Klosters Dorf, not sure how long that is, but it's a long way and has stonking views. Lovely.
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Davos from the Pasenn top Weissfluhgipfel at 2844m and ski to Kublis at 810m. That is one run of 17km long and 2km vertical drop. One has to take a train back as the run is unidirectional.
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Things which are long are over-rated.... Wink

But you very rarely get a really long run which isn't either largely of scenic value only, or over such a great vertical drop that the conditions are iffy at one end or the other.
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saikee, oh, it's 17km is it?

stoat of the dead,
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Things which are long are over-rated....largely of scenic value only,
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Top of the Schilthorn above Murren down to Lauterbrunnen a vertical drop of 2174m .
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Chasseur wrote:
Sarenne in Alpe d'Huez - 11km, IIRC


Bit short there more like 16km wink Of which around 11km is a flat cart track or seemed like it. Toofy Grin

stoat of the dead agreed. Revvy's longest run at 15km is a green one winding down and around the mountain - basically another cart track Toofy Grin
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Les Arcs - Top of the Aiguille Rouge down to villaroger...3250m down to 1250 iirc. some 2K vertical

Might be better to take the pisted option than the one here : -
http://youtube.com/v/fwnto05elCE
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Cascades in the GM 14km from top of Flaine down to Sixt, 1800m vertical. Doesn't get beyond blue, some polling.
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Things which are long are over-rated.... Wink

But you very rarely get a really long run which isn't either largely of scenic value only, or over such a great vertical drop that the conditions are iffy at one end or the other.


Can I respectfully suggest that you may not have tried the Aiguille Rouge in Les Arcs. As long as it's clear weather then conditions are always good at the top. Agreed down in Villaroger things can get a bit dodgy towards the end but that is amply made up for by Michelle's welcome in Le Ferme.
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Doesn't get beyond blue, some polling.


not to mention some grass. I've not skied in Flaine that often (maybe 4 times) but so far there's never been enough snow to ski to the bottom.
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and shouldn't that be poling? Is polling what they do to cows, or voters?
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gravystuffing, I have. And I like Le Ferme too... But as a run it ain't great. My point stands.
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bertie bassett, great video. Thanks.
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stoat of the dead, you must have taken a wrong turn. Which section isn't great?
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gravystuffing, agreed, the run down from Aiguille Rouge to Villaroger is an absolute belter. A real good mix of wide and steep at the top, turning into a sweeping red, through the moguls and then gentle and cruisey towards the bottom when the thighs are really burning. Doing it from top to bottom on a sunny day will live long as one of my favourite skiing memories.
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stoat of the dead, you must have taken a wrong turn. Which section isn't great?


Nice one Dav, I've guided parties down the Aiguille Rouge many, many times and although I admit I'm always careful to choose the right day weather-wise, everyone always says it will live in their memory and no matter how many times I do it I've never failed to enjoy it myself.

For the uninitiated make sure you take your poles with you for the short walk to the top for views over Mont Blanc, Monta Rosa and right behind you the blue ice on glacier and the summit of Mont Puorri.
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gravystuffing, indeed, I repped in Les Arcs last year and the Aiguille Rouge was always the "must-do" run that I promoted to each week's set of guests; of course, preferably on a clear day for the views from the top. Guiding (sorry, "ski-escorting!!") punters down the steep top bit and through the narrow section will not, however, live so long in the memories!
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stoat of the dead, you must have taken a wrong turn. Which section isn't great?


the bit between the top of lanchettes and when it opens out again above the bottom of droset - that's a section that isn't great. The red bit round solliet restaurant if the snow is a bit iffy..

Apart from that, and as a run to do without stopping it's terrific...
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Cascades in the GM 14km from top of Flaine down to Sixt, 1800m vertical. Doesn't get beyond blue, some polling.

Is it really that long? I remember a lot of poling (near the top I think, but it was a long time ago).

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not to mention some grass. I've not skied in Flaine that often (maybe 4 times) but so far there's never been enough snow to ski to the bottom.

Was sheet ice when I went down. Right to the bottom.
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bertie bassett, if you can do it without stopping you're a better man than I Shocked

Dav, it's a shame about that little narrow section because that is really the only limiting factor to getting folk down the "easy" route. Most who are not being "escorted" think the wiggly black bit on the map is going to be the hardest bit. In fact it's the best black "road" there is. It's just that 30 meters of narrow red that catches people out. I really never take people who might freak-out there even if they'd enjoy all the rest. It was amazing how long the "blown" snow lasted down in Villaroger last season despite the lack of falling snow. I've never actually taken all the blue run down before. We clocked it a 10km. Normally it's only 7 or 8 depending on route choice.


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bertie bassett wrote:
gravystuffing wrote:
stoat of the dead, you must have taken a wrong turn. Which section isn't great?


the bit between the top of lanchettes and when it opens out again above the bottom of droset - that's a section that isn't great. The red bit round solliet restaurant if the snow is a bit iffy..

Apart from that, and as a run to do without stopping it's terrific...


I absolutely love that bit! Straight lining down to get enough speed to carry over the flat and uphill section; the first time I did it (quite a few years back now) as a nervous intermediate was a great adrenaline rush!
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oops, wrong thread Laughing
But the first one Colin mentioned from Cervinia would get my vote.
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Cascades in the GM 14km from top of Flaine down to Sixt, 1800m vertical. Doesn't get beyond blue, some polling.

Is it really that long? I remember a lot of poling (near the top I think, but it was a long time ago).

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not to mention some grass. I've not skied in Flaine that often (maybe 4 times) but so far there's never been enough snow to ski to the bottom.

Was sheet ice when I went down. Right to the bottom.


Was there in 03 when they had a blinder for snowfall and it was open for the first time in years and more than fully skiable all the way down. Absolute cruiser and some polling at the top indeed, but still a very memorable run nonetheless!
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and shouldn't that be poling? Is polling what they do to cows, or voters?


Yes, as I typed it I thought it didn't look correct but one "l" seemed wrong as well. I stand corrected.

I haven't run into grass on Cascades, rather ice near the bottom where they've used the cannons. You have to choose your day I guess and have some luck with it.
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Cascades in the GM 14km from top of Flaine down to Sixt, 1800m vertical. Doesn't get beyond blue, some polling.

Is it really that long?



Yup, I believe so. It's wonderful on a still, sunny day. Get away from the madding crowd.
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oz5000, my calculations suggest it was Jan 04 when I skied sheet ice the whole way. Jan 03 was the year with a mega dump I remember skiing in more than knee deep powder on piste on a blue run.
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Pedantica wrote:
The run from the Weissfluhgipfel in Davos down to Kublis is 12km and 2,000m vertical. And you can also ski on mostly intermediate runs (after the very first bit) direct to Klosters Dorf, not sure how long that is, but it's a long way and has stonking views. Lovely.


Davos and Klosters are fantastic ski areas for good intermediates with lots of great skiing. I remember skiing from the top of the Parsenn to Jenaz I think, we set off at 9am and only just made the train at 5.40 pm, what a day. Also skied down to the railway line to Arosa from the back of the Parsenn, another great route. I spent a season there (in 1999) and would willingly go back.
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davidof, it's so beautiful, I just love it.
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Top of the glacier in Flims/Laax down to Flims village is smidge over 17km and a whisker under 2000m vertical. Some nice gentle blues at the top, and one of the best pistes in the resort, the red 18, down to the village. The do an open-to-everyone race on it every year
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