Poster: A snowHead
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Last year I decided to invest in some boots and went to Ellis Brigham in Covent Garden (I worked close by). I was measured up and had some boots brought out (Salomon impact 10s), which I didn't choose. I had the boots heat moulded but was told I didn't need a custom insole.
When I took them out for my first run I was in agony, my toes hurt and went numb and the rest of my feet felt like they were on fire. I persevered for a few days before visiting a local shop who made me some custom insoles, which solved the painful burning feet but not the numb toes. The bootfitter didn't want to try anything else because he thought the numbness may have been caused by the soreness of my feet.
I wrote a complaint to the shop I bought the boots in and they made some adjustments to the shell, which made the boots feel better in the shop.
Fast forward to this year and again I have the same problem with numbness in my toes, as well as pain on the base of my forefoot. I went to a local bootshop who told me that I have 'weird shape feet' and they removed some of the boot sole before remoulding the boots to my feet. I can't say the boots are much better, and now I have developed a painful twinge when I walk.
I dont feel particularly pinched when in the boots, but the sides of my big toes and also the bony parts of my feet are quite red when I take the boots off. This problem happens whether the boots are done up or not, is there anything else I can try?
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 26-01-11 17:00; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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garak112, how is the flexion at your ankle, ie can you squat down, sit your butt on your calf and still have your heels on the floor? if not how far down can you get, numbness can be caused by many things, compression of the nerves on the top of your feet, over loading of the ball of the foot or compression form the sides of the feet, so without seeing the foot and the boot it is impossible to say much further, it could simply be a foot shape thing and the foot just doesn't match the boot shape
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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garak112,
Probably best to have your feet looked at by a proper boot-fitter / specialist. CEM / Colin (who posted above) is well respected here on snowheads.
http://www.solutions4feet.com/
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My ankles don't flex very much, I can't get anywhere near my calves as my heels come up very quickly.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Doing that test gives me a drop of about 5cm, which is poor!
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garak112, there is your problem!! you need to.....
A) have heel lift put in your boots, probably 10-12mm minimum, you may struggle to get more in (depends on how the boot fits)
B) start doing some serious stretching exercises
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When you buy a boots be sure that your comfortable and be sure that the size has a little allowance so that you feet will not get hurt.
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I would have said more "snug" than "comfortable" fitting, once the liner packs out a little they should become comfortable i.e. "Snug" to "comfortable" as opposed to "Comfortable" to "loose"
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Step 3 - The Shell Check
Ski boots are comprised of 2 basic components: the innerboot, for comfort and control; and the shell, for transmission, performance and fit. The shell governs how a boot fits, so a shell-check is needed with every boot you try – this will ensure it’s the correct size, shape, and volume for your foot. We check 4 points: length, ankle width, forefoot width, and instep height. With your foot in the shell only and your big toe lightly touching the end, there should be approximately 10 – 20mm space behind your heel. We use about 10mm for a performance fit, and up to 20mm is our recreational fit. We do not recommend more than 20mm as this would lead to a loose-fitting boot after just a little skiing. The rest of the check is done with the foot positioned centrally in the shell, a guide would be 3 to 5mm space at each side of the forefoot, 5-10mm at each ankle bone, and 10mm above the instep, allows enough room to replace the innerboot and maintain a close and snug fit without over-tightening the buckles.
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http://www.ellis-brigham.com/ski-boots.htm
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CEM, That's a nice idea to speak in mm, where did that one come from????
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CEM, Measuring what? You see the feet in question????
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CEM, thank you for the advice - I have tried with some heel lift and didn't see any difference. I don't think these boots are right for my feet.
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