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After a good 70+ days in my boots my previously comfortable left foot has developed the nastiest blood blister around the whole upper part of the big toe. Came on from a smaller blister that I tried to compeed out of the equation. I know the toenail is a gonner but my residual concern is that it could be frostbite so can a kind medic put my hypocondria out of the equation. No real sense of having cold toes (though temps were low at the weekend) and definitely warm and sensation overnight between days skiing so I doubt it.

Any advice on treatment other than not to burst the blister if possible to avoid infection - worth a trip to doc for prophylactic antibiotics?
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Hi fatbob, if the sensation is normal, it shouldn't be frostbite.
I always advocate leaving blisters alone, Mrs Paellahead (who is a nurse) always advocates draining them rolling eyes
Antibiotics only if it gets very hot and tender.

Did you not do the boot up so tightly (so the foot slid forward in the boot) or wear a different pair of socks?
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fatbob, Frostbite LOL!
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red 27, You should see it - Whole toe is purple. No socks I hadn't worn before and cuff clips normal, no real toe bang. Think its a toasted liner and a sheell that's slightly long on my foot to get needed width.
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fatbob, oh ok - does sound serious. I would say cut the chuffing thing off with a bread knife and be done with it. Pad the boot out with bubble wrap.

More seriously, I say you toe has been forced and/or is banging against the end of the boot through the worn liner and it's badly bruised - I have had similar
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Highly inappropriate I know, but fatbob, can I just say excellent choice of title for this thread, it made me chuckle Neh Neh
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I got a little bit of frostbite before Christmas in both big toes. Both blistered on the end, but deep, thick blisters unlike I've had before. The initial colour of the blisters was regular skin colour, maybe a bit pinker than usual and it stayed like that for 10 days or so and then slowly turned dark and sort of fell off. I now have very little surface sensation in the blistered area, but they have been very painful with just a little bit of cold since then.
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rob@rar, Whilst I hesitate to question your diagnosis,as I feel sure you would have had your toes checked out,I have to ask....how on earth does a recreational skier get frostbitten Confused Having always associated frostbite with either extream temps/exposed skin,or longer term exposure but still very low temps;I have to ask.......did you not notice it was a bit chilly around your nether regions wink

On a serious note,did you notice any signs etc.I would have thought that your face or fingers would have alerted you?
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fatbob,

Think we need a piccie!
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snowskisnow wrote:
I have to ask....how on earth does a recreational skier get frostbitten Confused
There were a range of factors I think. It was a very cold week (temperatures of -20 and lower on most days); I was skiing all day with just short coffee stops to warm up; I was teaching a relatively slow moving group so never really skied hard enough to generate any body heat of my own; the pistes I were on were in the deep shade in the morning; my ski boots seem to be much less well insulated than previous boots I've worn; on the day which seemed to do the damage there was boot deep, super-cold snow on piste and along the sides so my feet were in the cold rather than on it. It took me 20 minutes to take my boots off that day as they had stiffened up stiffer than a stiff thing because of the cold. I was taking care to look for signs of frostnip on faces as well as doing my best to warm up my painfully cold fingers, but it was my feet that got properly cold.
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rob@rar, a cautionary tale I feel,and possibly a combination of unusual circumstances.Many of us,inc me,have been in temps as low as this...and it is ruthlessly cold;but usually we have the chance to regularly warm up.Another reason not to envy the ski instructor wink
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snowskisnow, if I hadn't have been teaching I would have stopped much more frequently to warm up, and on a couple of days probably would have stopped much earlier than I did. I had similar temperatures in Zermatt last season on an instructors' course: on the day we were demoing snowploughs we needed to stop every 60 minutes to defrost, which was possible because we weren't teaching clients. But today I bought a nice pair of bootheaters (thanks to CEM for the expert fitting) so hopefully frozen toes is a thing of the past Happy
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Update: The final consulant opinion was "Superficial gangrene to tip of big toes. Lesions resolved spontaneously." For the layman, hard scabs fell off, toes now look normalish.

So was frostbite/nip. Caused quite a panic with my GP which got me a referral fast track but was one occasion where specialist websites (including TGR which has a wealth of stories on frostbite) and bootfitting professionals can provide more practical insight and comfort than generalist medical opinion. So as for rob a cautionary tale, probably prompted in this case by a bit of backseat skiing and toe bang. One more reason to "ski proper"
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pity we don't have "before" and "after" photos Wink
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pity we don't have "before" and "after" photos Wink


Lucky you mean - it was offensive enough for those that did see them without a permanent record.
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