 Poster: A snowHead
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
Ken I have the full fat b94. The respect is lighter but this would still be quite a heavy weigh set up.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
The Fritschi free-ride is aimed (as the name suggests) at freeriding as opposed to touring. Its stronger than the Explorer and has a higher DIN rating, at the cost of weight - its roughly 250g's heavier.
If this is your 1st pair of touring skis, you could consider 2nd hand - even if its just for the bindings (e.g. skis wear out much faster than bindings, but people often sell 'well-worn' skis with perfectly servicable bindings still attached).
That would leave more $ and give you more options for skis
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
Thanks to both of you, that's all really useful info. Do you recommend I go for the Explore/Titanial 2 or 3 bindings then, or with the right (light) ski, would the freeride bindings do?
Also, what are your thoughts on the ski length of 178cm? Is that about right? I've only got a set of Salomon Pocket Rockets in a 175.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
| snow_muncher wrote: |
| The Fritschi free-ride is aimed (as the name suggests) at freeriding as opposed to touring. Its stronger than the Explorer and has a higher DIN rating, at the cost of weight - its roughly 250g's heavier. |
I'm not certain, but isn't the weight difference mainly down to the Freeride having brakes and the Explore not having brakes?
The brakes are removable if weight is a concern, although most people seem to think that they are worth keeping on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
I believe they've got a more powerful spring-release mechanism in the heal release unit (which gives the higher DIN rating). They also have bigger/higher mounting plates.
The brakes don't weigh much - certainly not 250g-ish. I have them fitted to my Explore's.
From what I remember, the 1st gen Fritschi where called 'Titanial', gen2 divided into Explore and Freeride.
gen3 the Explorer and Freeride moved further apart - the Explore has a redesigned toe piece - supposed to have moved the pivot point back (more natural foot roll)
The Freeride has been given a higher mounting-plate (more charge into the carve).
Sometime this last year, Black Diamond bought Fritschi. The Explore has been renamed Eagle.
The Freerides in the ebay package are gen2.
Fritschi's are heavy, so I'd stick with the Explore/Eagle
If you're starting from stratch, I'd make sure you get boots with dynafit - even if you stick with more traditional bindings for now.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
i would steer clear of the rossi respect line. i have seen two pairs in action; both broke
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
I stand corrected over the weight of the brakes.
The Weight of the Gen2 & Gen3 Explorer/Eagle/Experience are listed as 1.72Kg, the weight of the Freeride as 2.20Kg, so the freerides are infact nearly .5Kg heavier than the Explore/Eagle/Experience.
I notice the Experience is in reality the Gen2 Explore.
Compare that to 670g for the Dynafit TLT Speed 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I do have a pair of Salomon Pocket Rocket Skis, would they be suitable to convert to ski mountaineering skis? I know that they are somewhat heavy, but the cost would be far cheaper than buying a new set of skis too.
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
|
The Eagles are very good but one observation, if using them with ski boots as opposed to touring boots the toe binding is tricky to engage, especially in powder.
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
| KenA wrote: |
| I do have a pair of Salomon Pocket Rocket Skis, would they be suitable to convert to ski mountaineering skis? I know that they are somewhat heavy, but the cost would be far cheaper than buying a new set of skis too. |
I've seen a few of these used with touring setups, they seem to work pretty well and they're not too heavy.
The only real downside to touring with twin tip is that you can't stick them upright in the snow, which can be handy when you need to faff around on a slope (e.g. fitting skins).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
KenA, I had a pair of the original Pocket Rockets mounted with Fritschi Titanal II (or IIIs)... worked a treat - tours all over the Alps, day & mulit-day, heli-skiing in AK, Exped in AK. Sold them on in good faith a few years back, still going strong (or as strong as a Salomon ski of a certain age will be...).
Only downside as sah mentons above is the twin tip, but thats a minor point.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
Do it properly, learn to Telemark
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
|
Thanks. Should I consider the Fritchi Plus or Pro then if I'm going to freestyle occasionally with them too?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
