 Poster: A snowHead
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Foloowing on from [louis post.
So precisely what is a ski(er)cross ski? Many of the manufacturers seem to classify them independently of "Piste' or 'Off Piste' skis yet they seem far to numerous to be 'sport'-specific.
So precisely how should they be seen ? Piste?/Off Piste?/All Mountain?/ Marketing blurb?
I have only tried a couple and the only distinguishing 'features' , I could suggest would be relative stiffness and consequent stability on ice/'icier' pistes/
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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eEvans, have you ever watched skicross? It's kind of like a downhill race through a terrain park. (think moto-cross or similar off road biking)
So, a skicross ski is a performance ski which can make quick turns, doesn't mind a bit of air, etc, and can get speed, they aren't great off piste, but they can cope fairly well.
Skicross is just another one of the steps in the Slalom/GS/DH ski types.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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A skier cross ski is generally based on a GS ski, but a bit more flexible. I have some and I think they're great. I really love skiing at high speed on piste, but they're a lot more flexible if you want to hop off piste or into the bumps.
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Head use the following categories for their skis: Racing, Skicross, Freeride, Park & Powder, All-Mountain.
Racing = SL, DH & GS skis
Skicross = XRC range
Freeride = Monster range
Park & Powder = Mojo/Mogul ranges
All-mountain = 'C' range
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beanie1, Yes that was what I was originally told but some manufacturers ( Atomic) seem to have them as an alternative piste ski.
Wear The Fox Hat, Yes I have seen skicross - the sport- but unsure as to why that spawns a very poular type of ski .
Take you point on the head range but Atomic seem to position thiers as piste skis -- useful for both long and short tutns and Salomon the same
So are they the true Piste 'Jack-of-all-Trades' ski ? What am I missing ?
Others here have cited some models as being good offf-piste ( Head skis) ... while other folks seem to suggest that they are more flexible GS skis ...
The Salomon range seem to cross-over with their 'Carving' skis ranges .. even the blurb only uses 'ski-cross' as a differentiator as both are 'great for carving addicts' .... ho hum ..
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I wouldn't necessarily say they are more flexible than a GS, but if you're comparing them to a race GS, they are shorter.
So:
Shorter than a GS
Stiffer than an SL
And a lot of fun (well, mine are!)
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Wear The Fox Hat, slightly wider than a GS or an SL as well?
eEvans, think of them ('cross skis) as the most versatile ski manufacturers could make if they started with a GS ski. They almost entirely replace the 'Race Carver' market segment of ca2000.
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eEvans, I've got the SX10s by Atomic (not quite the stiffest) and I'm a bit lardy at the minute. They're 160s and me at mumblemumblemumble Kgs, going off piste is more an exercise in submarine warfare. They're great on piste for both long and short turns* and very stable in a straight line. Luv'em
Look at the 'metron' range of Atomics if you want to add off piste to a similar type of ski (waiting for my B5s cos some U*S (or similar) numpty drove over, the first ones sent to me, in the depot!) 
*at least for the 3 turns that I'm deemed capable of by the guy that taught me.
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Submarine warfare: Masque, have you seen Cirquerider's Volkl 6*s at Tahoe pics yet? 3rd page (31847 and older).
EDIT: <pinnnng>
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Read quite an interesting article in a French ski mag (Skieur I think) saying that a lot of manufacturers were cutting down on their skiercross ranges. Seems it's a bit of a story of hype over substance and that most people don't really aspire to do what skiercross skiers do. I have a pair of Atomic SX11s which are great on piste, but if i was looking to replace them, I'd probably go for a pure slalom model
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Arno, Welcome .... well at least that might confuse me just a little bit less ! Does then beg the question , so which ski will they then claim " are excellent at both short and long turns' ( Atomic) and 'grip like nothing else ' {Head(?)) .... cynical ? Moi ? 
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It'll be the same ski but with different graphics 
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You know it makes sense.
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