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I was thinking these look like a good option for me (as Im not to keen on using a wide stance), but would like a short ski, that I an use allround.
Anyone tried them?
Cheers
Trond
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| coops wrote: |
I was thinking these look like a good option for me (as Im not to keen on using a wide stance), but would like a short ski, that I an use allround.
Anyone tried them?
Cheers
Trond |
Well as they are slalom skis I expect they'd be short and very shaped. To carve shaped skis effectively you have to have a wider stance to get the edge angles and stability at speed to make the skis work for you. I'd have though if you really do want to ski with your feet together all the time then you might be better off with a more freeride type ski which has less shape and will work better in the powder/bumps (where a closer stance is a better thing) as the shape won't benefit you as much on piste imho. For this purpose I use Volkl Karma's, which have a 20M radius and are quite fat (as opposed to SL9s that are relatively skinny and have an 11M radius (which is pretty tight!))
A ski instructor friend of mine skis his SL9s in pretty much all conditions - but he is a truly outstanding skier!
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k, I dont really mind if they tight, Im used old fashioned salomon skis, which i bought in Klosters 6 years ago, their really narrow (old fashioned) , so I guess the SL9's will be a step up no matter what 
only think Im worried about is that their only 170cm and im 199cm so might be a tad short, so was wondering if I should get the GS9 which you ca get slightly longer (mabye 180)
Stuarth:
Does your ski instructor like them?
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Slalom skis are by their nature short skis. If you want a more general purpose Atomic ski the GS9/11 or SX9/10/11 are closer to the mark.
Apparently the fact that skis are getting much shorter is due to the construction making them much stiffer tortionally hence to be stable at speed you need less length.
I think he does like them, he was skiing on them on a powder day and seemed to be having fun - but he also gets them for free!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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hehe nice for some isnt it?
oh well, i think I'll probably go for the GS9, as they will be better for short sharp turns down steep slopes (which is what i think is most fun) also they will be wider than my current skis so they would be better off piste.
Cheers for helping m8!
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coops, Do you really need a race derived ski ? Perhaps Metrons, or the new Bandit may be a better all round choice ?
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| ski wrote: |
| coops, Do you really need a race derived ski ? Perhaps Metrons, or the new Bandit may be a better all round choice ? |
That's what I'd have thought too (though I'm not sure how racey GS9s really are, GS11s would be higher performance if that's what you want).
I've skied some pretty (very!) steep stuff on my SX10s and to be honest they were not the best ski in the world for it or maybe it was jut me!  ). On that stuff I find at least a slightly raised tail a good thing, plus less sidecut. Most of the Extremely Canadian guys I skied with were on B3s and Scratches (I think they have a deal with Rossignol - but still probably the right ski for the job)
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well initially I was thinking metron b5 (I made a post earlier - metron b5 vs volkl) but they are more carving than "old fashioned" style, and made for people using a wider stance.
I've been sking for a very long time, with old fashioned skis (salomon 190cm or something, couldnt find a picture of them) I like my old skis, but it would be nice to upgrade.
Now I dont stricktly need to have racing skis (althoug speed is nice ....) but I dont wanna end up spending money on some fancy new carving ski which Im gonna hate cos their made for people who carve.
I just wanna invest in a pair of skis that are not to long (for moguls n stuff) are quite fast but easy to do short and sharp turns down steep hill. An last but not least decent for off piste.
Some have suggested stockli stormriders XL and dynastar lengend 8000
Should really try and rent and try some out this winter, but that is kinda hard in Norway, good excuse to go to the alps eh?
Ah well...
Take care
Trond
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ah, been looking at the Dynastar Legend 4800, which might be a good choice (this is so confusing ...) which look like a good option as their made for both off piste and on piste (as the majority of my sking day will be spent on piste)
Anyone have any thoughts?
Not that expensive either!
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coops, 4800 (and 6200) are the skinnier versions of the Legend 8000. How much do you want to float?
The SL9m for allround skidding use could work for you if you're good, and if you get the right length. Optimal length for your use may very well NOT be the length recommended for slalom race use, which is what a shop clerk will tell you. Unless you do a lot of explaining and the shop clerk listens.
The reason it is confusing is because you've been throwing darts all over the wall.
(GS11m but not SX11 nor Head iXRC1100/1200 when the original question was b5vs6*. Then to Stormrider/Legend 8000 then to SL9m?)
That Salomon skinny 6 years ago tells us a fair bit, actually.
I'm going to venture a guess that it was an XScream or XFree.
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coops, If shorter more heavily sidecut skis are the future (?), how about just buying a modern ski, adopt a wider stance & get some edging/angulation going?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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spyderjon, he may not be as ready for the investment of money, time, and learner's pain as we have been. Its a fair objection if he doesn't ski that many days a year.
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Hey.
Cheers for all your input, and yes I have been throwing darts all over the wall The reason being all the different equipment choices, makes it very difficult to choose.
The ideal thing would be to get a ski that could do it all so you could do whatever you fancied, but that isnt so easy (if you have a fat ski then you float on the powder snow  but you loose the edge to edge quickeness  )
So firstly I will probably need a mid fat ski.
Secondly, I would like a stiff ski, which is stable at high speeds and gives me good grip on prep snow and ice.
In terms of skiing alot, I've been skiing for 20 years, but unfortunately I dont get to go skiing all the time.
I've tried carving skis before in St Anton but chose the old fashioned style ski in the end. I have no problem adopting the wider stance and carving I just want a ski that will allow me to do both (you dont carve moguls do u?!)
The majority of my skiing will probably be on piste, not vertically down some crazy hill, but some crazyness is good, and needed
Finally, the best thing would probably be to try out skis in the winter, but hopefully by asking u guys I could know what to aim for.
Hope I havent pissed everyone off by askin 1000 questions.
Cheers
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You know it makes sense.
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coops, for the stiff on piste ski you could do a lot worse than the head GS race ski, really fantastic edge to edge performance even on ice and very stable, no chatter at all, not quite an old fashioned ski as they include feedback within the ski, a sort of ski version of active suspension.
Wouldn't reccomend it for off piste though, it's very heavy and not hugely wide
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yes the SL11's are really heavy as well. My son's 130s are much heavier than my all mountain 160s. The SL9 and SL11 are nice slalom skis, good for getting round the poles on the dry slope, they really are specialist slalom race skis, not an all rounder.
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