 Poster: A snowHead
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Is it only me that experiences this phenomenon, or do other Snowheads encounter (and get frustrated) by it too?
No matter where i ski, and with what kind of clientèle, the outside door to the Ski/Boot room is pretty much always left unlocked.
Very rarely after a day skiing do i need to root out my key in order to get into the ski room at the chalet or B&B I am staying in.
I know that ski resorts probably don't have the kind of theft risk that i am used to (living near Manchester!), but it still pees me off to consistently find the door either unlocked or just swinging open.
Just me?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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magic_hat, you must be the only snowHead that doesn't sleep with his/her skis
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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At the last hotel we stopped at I was very impressed by the individual, lockable lockers provided in the ski room. On the second morning of skiing, I went to pick up my skis only to accidentaly open the locker next to mine. Further investigation proved that each of the 20+ lockers used the same key pattern.
This wasn't to much of an issue until a large group of Germans discovered it and started filling other guest's lockers with their kit. On the final day of the holiday someone must have had enough, as when I left the locker room there were several sets of skis and poles thrown out in a pile just outside the ski room door.
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I always use my ski lock in the boot room
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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holidayloverxx, the rental shop I hired my skis from in Tignes last week specifically request I use mine in the ski room, they've had quite a few pairs stolen from ski rooms as well as from outside bars - apparently 40 pairs a day being reported nicked over half term in Le Lac
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I've only ever once come across a hotel ski room that was not entered in the afternoon by a simple open door, from the outside, and even that one only required a 4 digit code entering on a keypad.
But it does seem to be quite rare for skis to be stolen from these ski rooms, for some reason.
Several hotels locked the ski room external door after early evening, and unlocked them around 8AM.
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I must have been lucky - I think the places I have stayed have been reasonably secure - either at the building, room or locker level.
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| magic_hat wrote: |
| jeffing ski room door |
No relation to the jeffing wickes abuse zone
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Just back from Espace Killy and shocked to see the comment from snowgirl123, I always lock my and the families ski's, my though is that the potential thief would rather not have hassle of trying to get the lock off, we stayed with Alpine Tracks in Tignes Le B, the boot room/entrance to the chalet had a decent keypad lock and the door was always closed, the chalet hosts made a point of reminding us.
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| magic_hat, you must be the only snowHead that doesn't sleep with his/her skis |
And carry them in hand luggage.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I think i encountered a key code door on my first ever ski trip to La Rosiere - after that they have always been just standard key operated locks.... that are never locked 
Think in future I will get some locks and lock them up safe and sound. Or sleep with them.
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When I sleep with my skis I keep them next to my helmet 
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You know it makes sense.
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This is why you never see staff leave their stuff in the ski room, despite the face that they're supposed to and get constant grief from their managers about skis in staff accommodation ruining the carpets.
And no matter how many signs you put up, how many times you remind people, and how often you lock the door yourself, the stupid sods still leave it open. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Lizzard, But surely when on holiday, I cannot be expected to lock the door myself? I have paid to be looked after for a week, and I don't think it unreasonable for someone to go around checking doors are locked and windows are closed after me.....
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Poster: A snowHead
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Any decent large establishment's ski room should have an automatic over head or perko type door closer and a lock that actually locks the door when it swings closed. If you do not have that then you are a tight wad staying in a second class establishment
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| magic_hat wrote: |
I know that ski resorts probably don't have the kind of theft risk that i am used to (living near Manchester!), but it still pees me off to consistently find the door either unlocked or just swinging open.
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50,000 pairs of skis reported stolen to the French police a year, I bet even Manchester doesn't have that kind of theft record. 3,000-4,000 pairs in l'Espace Killy alone.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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davidof, Where do they end up, surely Poland and Bulgaria don't need that many skis in a season 
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Samerberg Sue,
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Austria where very little stealing takes place as a rule.
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When we in Ischgl this year we wre warned by the rental shop that a lot of stuf had been stolen recently. Mind you they wre trying to sell us insurance at a fairly high price.
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Samerberg Sue, I stayed at some very nice apartments last weekend (Kuhtai) and the entire check in process was automated, all you had to do was type the booking code in to a machine and keycards popped out, and these cards then also operated the ski room, which was accessed from inside the apartment building lobby. Free sweets, bread, apples and an internet linked computer in the reception too !
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At the Vicoria Lauberhorn (MSB) the door of the ski room was always locked. We paid 10 francs deposit for a key. Having said that, I'm not sure theft is a problem at Wengen as we saw rucksacs hung on skis outside restaurants and lifts .
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I don't tend to use hotel ski/boot rooms, I rent lockers at the lift base stations. Hopefully these are more secure and they have the added bonus that the boot rooms are normally heated and I don't have to lug all my equipment back and forth to the hotel every day.
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Was in Mayrhofen in January, boot room was never locked during the day.
The apartments where we usually stay has racks in the hall at foor of stairs, easy enough to get access but never lost anything yet. Maybe nobody fancies my cheap rossis 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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We had 'lockable ski lockers' this year. Didn't even bother looking at them, skis stayed in our room.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I always assumed the impossibly small bath in an alpine apartment was for keeping snowboards in 
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Tackling this from the other angle:
If I have a night out in Verbier I know of an apartment block near the lift station that leaves their ski room open during the day, this means I can dump my stuff there and go into town without having to go a mile or so through the streets and back again to leave it at my mates apartment.
OTOH the ski lockers in our block are pretty much too small to leave a snowboard in, given I have 4 boards and a set of skis and gorilla has 3 pairs of skis plus those of anyone staying here (most will have 2: 1 normal pair and 1 touring setup) we have no chance. Every couple of weeks the concierge catches someone taking skis in the lift and complains. 
Last season the apartmnet owner told us to keep stuff on the balcony as the ski rooms weren't secure and had all been broken into at some point. We never even found where they were.
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You know it makes sense.
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Swirly, a number of reports of skis being nicked off balconies, I seem to recall
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Not only that, they steal the balconies as well
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Poster: A snowHead
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holidayloverxx, depends how high your balcony is.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| magic_hat wrote: |
| For Pete's Sake, Lock the jeffing ski room door |
For Pete's sake, lock this thread
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Pete Doherty is in Austria at the moment, is Jef Wickes with him?
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DB, Jef in Turkey last I heard 
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For Pete's sake, pluck/fuck the jeffin turkey
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The hotel in St Anton had a good strong door closer and a key pad - although the skiis were not in individual lockers inside, It helped that you had to go in the main door beforehand too!
I managed to loose on in Powder this year (yes we looked, for a long time, and yes we looked much further above than We thought). THe shop were real a**holes about it until the last day, giving me some other skis and telling us to go look again...but when we went back emptyhanded they told us that the insuracne did coverit and there was no excess so.....result?
The guide we used said that 90% of all "stolen" skiis were mistakenly swapped, although to be honest I can't believe that's true, the chances of the bindings fitting for a start must be astronomical!
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| ddraver wrote: |
The guide we used said that 90% of all "stolen" skiis were mistakenly swapped, although to be honest I can't believe that's true, the chances of the bindings fitting for a start must be astronomical! |
Not as high as you might think actually.
For any given make of boots, you generally find that one shell size covers two shoe sizes. and also remember that you will often have a good enough fit for the skis to stay on, even when the sole length is 1-2mm different to the ones the skis have been set for (releasing correctly is another matter, but you only find out about that when you fall and they don't come off).
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Given that loads of skis were being stolen 30 to 40 years ago (plenty vanished when I was based in the Spey Valley in 1974-5), it's impressive that international skiing is still monkeying about with the issue in 2010.
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Another comment in favour of Hemsedal. Ski lockers are either part of the apartment/chalet or use the same key code for the room you are in. They are also big enough to accomodate the kit of the people staying as opposed to the French place we were in last week. Ski locker for 6 with room for 4 pairs of skis, 1 of boots and two helmets. Hardly sufficient but at least it worked with our room key.
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