 Poster: A snowHead
|
Following on from a Danish TO pulling out of Italy (due to being bought out by a French TO), we have been offered all the rooms in the 2 hotels they had booked for Half Term 2011, but we only need 1.
Ain’t it always the case, you wait for ages for a hotel to come along then 2 turn up together 
Anyway,
Hotel A
4* - 300m from slopes, V nice with pool, wellness, posh dinners, etc.
Hotel B
3* - ski in / ski out right by the piste, still V nice but no wellness centre.
Both hotels will be sold at the same price, so that's not a factor.
So
An extra * or ski in/out ????
Any thoughts ????
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
ski in / out every time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
Definitely ski in/ski out!
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
Wayne, I'd pick Hotel A assuming the 300m was a flat walk I could do in boots.....reason being the kids had a pool last year and loved it, nice retreat for them and others in blizzards, whilst the boys stay out to play...
Can you take 50% of the rooms in both?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
Not that bothered - but given the choice I would go for Hotel B. Wellness centres are not my thing - and the 4* hotel is probably over-pretentious for a ski holiday.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
Wayne, how do they fit with the other hotels you offer? I guess i could look at your website and check...
But if all the other are near the slopes but don't have the spa, maybe Hotel B rounds out your offering nicely
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Personally I would opt for the 4 star option, but I reckon most skiers would opt for the ski in ski out option
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
300m isn't too far to walk to the lift(s) - but what is the uplift when you get there? Is it just one cable car with possible long queues at busy times - or several fast 6 pack chairs?
If you don't think you'll need to queue for long, I'd go for the 4* option.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
Interesting. I usually prefer 2-3* when skiing, as I like seeing around me people who are focused on skiing, rather than on a posh holiday (over-pretentious as achilles says). But at the same price, for a change, I may well opt for the 4* with pool (though I'm not so much into posh dinners). 300m is not a long distance.
Arno raises a good point, compare with your existing offer. And then choose a) the one that complements it, b) the one that is in line with the remainder of your hotels...not helpful, I know.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| kitenski wrote: |
| Can you take 50% of the rooms in both? |
Not really - this only works if we get the larger discount available by taking exclusive use and we don't want to book any more after this - for logistic reasons (ski hire, staff, transfers, etc)
| Arno wrote: |
| Wayne, how do they fit with the other hotels you offer? |
All our hotels are about the same
| Dubaian wrote: |
| what is the uplift when you get there? Is it just one cable car with possible long queues at busy times - or several fast 6 pack chairs? |
We are one of the few resorts (that I can think of) where there is more capacity for uplift (in two 6 man gondolas) from the town than there are beds available in all the hotels. So (even at New Year when it's crazy) you only ever wait about 5 mins max ( and that's for the Dutch people who just "have" to be the 1st on the slopes every day) and most of the time you ski down / walk up to the lift and get in. There are 2 cable cars up from the town.
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Tue 24-08-10 9:43; edited 1 time in total
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
ski in/out every day of the week.
If someone want to use the wellness centre they can go to it when they need it. I doubt very much if the wellness center will be use twice a day by every guest, whereas everyone will benefit twice a day from ski in/out convenience. It will be a much bigger draw for a much wider selection of punters.
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
|
B
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
B
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
| Dr John wrote: |
| I doubt very much if the wellness center will be use twice a day by every guest, . |
I know I put this in another post but I can't find it on the search. So sorry for repeating.
Not sure if this is the same accross Europe for Brit skiers ????
I asked my mate last year (he owns 2 of the hotels that we rent and his kids our in my level 5 class) about Britis using the suana, spa, massage, etc. He told me that on most day "not one single person" was in the spa when it was all Brits in the hotel.
Strange that as many people ask about about spas when they book, but when they get there they don't use em.
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Tue 24-08-10 9:49; edited 1 time in total
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
|
Ski in ski out every time! Which resort as that makes the biggest difference of all!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
Pools and saunas are one of those things that sound nice when you're booking, but when push comes to shove you're usually too knackered/busy/drunk to bother using them. That's what I've found anyway. I've been in loads of places that have had a pool but the total number of times I've used them is zero.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
Wayne, I think it's because one often has a choice of drinking or spa-ing before dinner, there's not time to do both. Personally I choose the spa, but most Brits wouldn't.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
A without kids, B with.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
Wayne, again not me, I think it's revolting to sweat into a cossie, but then I'm not a 'true' Brit.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
Wayne & paulio, on the occasions I've stayed at placed with the facilities I've used them a couple of times at best, and even then only the pool and the sauna. The rest of the time I've been out enjoying myself.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Extra *. I prefer to stay in villages, with somewhere to stroll in the evening and choice of restaurants and bars. An extra few minutes to the slopes is neither here nor there for me. I also like a room in which I could swing a cat, should the fancy take me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
| Boredsurfing wrote: |
| Wayne, Meaningless without factoring price/profit |
and since when did you last hear anyone in Thomas Cook asking for the P&L sheets of a club 18-30 hotel in Ibiza
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
proud to be on that fence 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| laundryman wrote: |
| Extra *. I prefer to stay in villages, with somewhere to stroll in the evening and choice of restaurants and bars. An extra few minutes to the slopes is neither here nor there for me. I also like a room in which I could swing a cat, should the fancy take me. |
Baby shaking kiddy fiddler etc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
| Colin B wrote: |
| A without kids, B with. |
I think Colin has hit the nail on the head, without kids goto bar, with kids, goto pool, one/two adult supervises, others goto sauna etc.
This is what we did last year and it worked so well we are going back, so Brits with kids were in the spa every day!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
| laundryman wrote: |
| I also like a room in which I could swing a cat, should the fancy take me. |
ok - chart updated
Ski In/Out - 4* - on fence - swing & cat to be provided
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
the 4* (for the pool)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
4* if the grub is better. Ski in ski out seems to be a particularly British obsession and IMO is a recipe for premium priced but substandard accomodation. In some instances it actually puts you in a very difficult location for nightlife etc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
ski in /out... some much less faff if you want to pop back for an hour.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
Like fatbob, says, it would depend on the location of the ski-in , ski-out hotel. If it is near to shops, bars etc, fair enough, but if it stuck halfway up a dark piste with poor access to the village I wouldn't be interested. I'd probably go for the 4* for the better food, and the spa. It's certainly a good selling point as far as my apartment is concerned.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
4* .
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
4* if it is actually nicer.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I snowboard so I don't mind walking.
300mtr is nothing and for me it is an essential warm up!
So option A - 4*
A nice balance between village center and slopes is the best.
However if I have to carry my girlfriend's skis or would have kids I might be tempted for ski in/out.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
That fence looks jolly nice but ....
I like a sauna after skiing to stretch my ageing muscles but resort pools tend to be very small and so full of screaming kids that it is usually not possible to do anything other than immerse yourself in water which you can do in a bath in your own room (which also helps with the muscles).
Ski in/out often tends to limit where you ski in the afternoon as there is pressure to always ski back to the hotel thus having to make your way to the correct area for the "home run". This is OK if there is only one main slope back to town but most places have a few runs back down the valley meaning you either have to walk or catch a bus anyway so the ski in isn't such a bonus.
In this case, if the 300m is really 300m I'm voting for the extra star.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I'd go for the 4 star if it really was 300m, and it was flat. More than 300m or up or down a significant hill, and I'd go for ski in/out.
We do tend to want to use swimming pools and generally appreciate a better quality of accomodation, but then without seeing both it is hard to call it.
Some people when they search will only consider 4 star - I've certainly run searches where 3 star is the minimum I'd consider, but then the star system is really crap for ski holidays as often it is the little stuff that wouldn't make a difference to their rating that we really value - like ski in/out, or a centre on site for ski/boot stuff, or bars and restaurants nearby.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
- yeah I was waiting for the comments 
