Poster: A snowHead
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So we always hear the usual advice about a shell fit of 1 finger width etc BUT, if I have boots that fit very nicely indeed* all the way to the ball of my foot, does it really matter if I have a bit "too much" room at the end of the toes?
i have some rather sexy purple toenails at the moment which were caused by kicking steps up a snow slope in some touring boots with a "performance fit". i like to loosen off the buckles in these situations and a bit of extra space in the toe box would make life a good bit more comfortable. my alpine boots probably are a bit "comfort fit" in terms of length but they fit my feet very nicely so once i am buckled down i don't think my foot slips around fore and aft because of the extra length
not looking to race but like a reasonable level of responsiveness from my boots
any comments from those in the know?
*for me a good fit is an acceptable level of discomfort rather than slipper-like comfort
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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IF and it is a big if you could guarantee holding the foot at the back of the boot without any migration forwards then it could be seen as ok to have a bit extra space round the toes (clown shoes anyone)...problem is it is near impossible to hold the foot at the back of the boot if there is any space for it to migrate forwards
if you could drop the volume suficiently then it can be done but you really need a low volume boot to do it effectively...then you have balance issues, heel retention,instep height and cuff height etc etc to deal with
so in answer to your question.... a lot depends on the person and their perception of fit/comfort/pain etc if the foot is not moving then fine
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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CEM, good to know. none of this would be a problem if i just skied in them in fact, a few tweaks should do the trick even for silly mountaineering stuff
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Don't buy red boots? You know you're not good enough to ski red boots.
FWIW I wouldn't want too much 'extra length' for ski control / feedback. However I would be happier with a little extra room (comfort / no purple toe nails) in my touring boots over discomfort / 'added' performance.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Arno, It is a major problem with the boots in question, infact also your Shamans, that the toe box is super low, i have work the shite out of mine, and it isn't easy to get the space i needed, was for sure never going to be happy with the size up.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, to be fair, it was probably worse in my old touring boots! maybe it's just because i had never done much "technical" climbing until i got touring boots that fitted me properly so the issue is the climbing rather than the length of the boots
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