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Sella Ronda/Dolomites snow report 2009/10

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Snow has fallen heavily across the Dolomites in the last few days and the season is just getting underway, so I thought I'd start a dedicated thread for all interested in the subject.
Feel free to add your snow reports, webcams, photos, forecasts etc as the season progresses.

Here's a nice snowy pic taken from the webcam in Colfosco this morning to get the ball rolling:


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The latest Val Gardena snow report shows that up to 70cm of snow fell in the recent storm, add this to the earlier artificial/natural base and there is currently 100cm of snow depth on the mountain and 20cm in the valley, more snowfall is forecast for later in the week, webcams show that grooming is now taking place and piste conditions should be excellent for the anticipated lift opening on Friday 4th December, great for any early season skiers heading out before Xmas:

http://www.valgardena.it/en/snow-report/page212.html
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A short editorial I came across on the recent snowfall in Italy and today's opening in Val Gardena:

http://www.fasttrackski.co.uk/ski-news/italy/val-gardena-opens-as-italy-gets-big-snow-200912024892.php

Not quite the same quantities as last years early snowfalls when the area was buried with around 3 metres in late Nov/early Dec, but it certainly looks like a good start to the season in the Dolomites.
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The Magnums are waxed and ready to tear some of that up in 16 days time. Very Happy

Freezeline dropping to 1200m tomorrow and more snow forecast for Sun/Mon. wink
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It's looking like we're heading that way next week. Toofy Grin
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erica2004 wrote:
It's looking like we're heading that way next week. Toofy Grin


If you're still there on the 19th, I'll give ya a race down Dantercepies. Razz
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Looking good for you two!

Looks like 36 out of 83 lifts were in service today in the Val Gardena area and 76km out of 175km of piste open too, with a further 30+ lifts opening at the weekend, no doubt more pistes too.
So just a few drags, ropepulls and duplicate chairs left that will probably open when they are needed as the season progresses.
Val Gardena will be pretty much fully operational for this weekend's visitors.
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Currently snowing some more today in Santa Cristina (Val Gardena) with temps hovering around zero, the piste in the background is the last section of the 'Saslong' Men's Downhill World Cup course that will see some racing action the weekend before Xmas:


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http://www.valgardena.it/en/ciampinoi-live/page256.html


It's open. Very Happy
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Todays snow report from Val Gardena.

Snowy Val Gardena...30-110 cm fresh snow!

Thanks to the snowfalls of the last days in the valley we register 30 cm and on the mountains approximately 110 cm fresh snow.
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Here are some interesting links to webcams & reports to keep an eye on or bookmark:

Selva & Val Gardena: http://www.val-gardena.com/en/plan-de-gralba/page97.html

Arabba: http://www.arpa.veneto.it/csvdi/svm/webarpav/arabba.htm

Cortina D'Ampezzo: http://www.dolomiti.org/dengl/Cortina/cmet/cam6b.html

Canazei, Campitello & Val di Fassa: http://www.dolomitisuperski.com/valfassa/en-US/webcam-val-di-fassa-1850EN.html

Alta Badia (Corvara, Colfosco, La Villa, San Cassiano, Pedraces): http://www.altabadia.org/en-US/webcam_alta_badia_dolomites.html

Kronplatz/Plan de Corones: http://www.kronplatz.com/en/skiarea/webcam/

Check out the buttons on the left of some of the pages for more webcams and click to enlarge, and enjoy!!! Cool snowHead


Detailed weather forecasts based in Arabba: http://www.arpa.veneto.it/bollettini/htm/dolomiti_meteo_en.asp

Dolomiti Superski lifts/pistes: http://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en-US/104EN.html
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luigi, I see there's a bit of rain forecast next week - is it going to wash the snow away? I'm about to book. Puzzled
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erica2004 wrote:
luigi, I see there's a bit of rain forecast next week - is it going to wash the snow away? I'm about to book. Puzzled


Easy Tiger!!! Very Happy At the very worst it'll only fall as rain in the village. The 110cm that's on the mountain now wont be going far until late March. wink
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Mollerski, Are you in Penryn? Going up Camborne hill, coming down and all that..
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erica2004, looking at the detailed Arabba forecast, they are forecasting some precipitation on Monday/Tuesday, the snow/rain limit starts at 1700/1500m dropping to 1100m, so should be snow right down to valley level, I can imagine it will be similar, even slightly colder just across the mountain at Selva (1565m), may get some rain further down the valley at Ortisei (1236m), but that won't affect the skiing up above Selva:

http://www.arpa.veneto.it/bollettini/htm/dolomiti_meteo_en.asp

As Mollerski says, that snow isn't going anywhere fast!
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erica2004, found the South Tyrol forecast, as expected, snow/rain limit for tomorrow is 1500m, so snow down to valley level at Selva:

http://www.val-gardena.com/en/weather-forecast/page233.html


The Italian version of the forecast for Tuesday is for the snow/rain limit to drop to 1000m, so fresh snow right across the ski area! snowHead

http://www.val-gardena.com/it/alto-adige/page233.html
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erica2004 wrote:
Mollerski, Are you in Penryn? Going up Camborne hill, coming down and all that..


Going up Mabe hill. wink
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It's all good. Very Happy Other than me twisting my knee on Fri and now it's so swollen I can hardly walk. We leave in 13 days. Confused
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I'm just about to book Hotel Granvara which is just outside Selva. Just a last question - is Selva a nice place to wander around after skiing? I've never found a better place to go to than Lech so I'm a bit out of my comfort zone.........
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erica2004 wrote:
- is Selva a nice place to wander around after skiing? ......


No, it's grim. wink
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erica2004, Lech takes some beating, I went there in March, though I didn't do any shopping, seem to remember quite a few nice shops there along the main street. I think the ambience is equally appealing in Val Gardena. Selva has a bit of a centre with various (mainly sports) shops, apres ski venues, pastry shop, supermarket etc. Ortisei has a quainter centre, you can get there by bus. You must visit the tea shop just above Selva while you're there, the homemade cakes are to die for, check out the pics:

http://www.villafrainela.it/eng/te.htm

And the Kaiserschmarren (Pancake strips with jam dusted with icing sugar, if you didn't already know) at the Vallongia hut in the afternoon:

http://www.baita-vallongia.com/en/index.html


The Granvara looks seriously nice, handy for the Men's Downhill run, must be almost ski-in-ski-out. It's probably a bit too far to walk into town from there, maybe they lay on a bus.
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Mollerski, hope that knee sorts itself out soon or you won't be up for that race down the Dantercepies! Toofy Grin
Sounds painful! Sad
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Mollerski, hope that knee sorts itself out soon or you won't be up for that race down the Dantercepies! Toofy Grin
Sounds painful! Sad


Thanks. Blush
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Oh well, good news, there couldn't have been much rain even lower down, the roofs in Ortisei (1236m) are still snow-covered this morning:

http://www.val-gardena.com/en/ortisei/page206.html

Even better news, the trees at Plan de Gralba (1800m), above Selva, are all white and it looks like it's still snowing as at 9:30am local time snowHead :

http://www.val-gardena.com/en/plan-de-gralba/page97.html
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Looking at the latest GFS 14-day forecast, it looks cooler tomorrow, then a bit milder as the week progresses, then from Friday onwards a plunge into an unseasonably cold easterly flow that could last all week, so likely drier and sunnier too:

http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/MS_1246_ens.png
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luigi wrote:
Looking at the latest GFS 14-day forecast, it looks cooler tomorrow, then a bit milder as the week progresses, then from Friday onwards a plunge into an unseasonably cold easterly flow that could last all week, so likely drier and sunnier too:

http://www.wzkarten.de/pics/MS_1246_ens.png


Cold and clear skies will do me. Very Happy
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Toofy Grin Toofy Grin I have the luck of the devil. We arrived in Lech a couple of years ago to unseasonably warm weather and rain - 2 days later the temperature dropped 15 degrees and it snowed and snowed.
So, we're off to Selva on Friday. Just need to get to Gatwick now. AirSouthWest want £400 return so it looks like a long drive on Thurs. night. Sad


luigi, Is the South Tyrol more Austrian than Italian. Will I be able to practice my German ? I know it was part of the old A-H empire.
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erica2004, there's quite an interesting cultural mix in Val Gardena, at home and amongst themselves, most of the locals speak Ladin, a relic of the ancient Latin-based Rhaetian language that was spoken extensively across the Alps since the days of the Roman empire, it only survived the onslaught of the lowland German and Italian dialects in a few high inaccessible valleys in Italy and Switzerland.

As you say, the area was also part of the A-H Empire for many centuries up til WW1, so the Tyrolean traditions are very strong, German surnames are the norm and it is spoken a lot in the tourist industry as a good proportion of visitors to the valley are German-speaking. So your German will come in useful. Towns closer to the Austrian border (i.e. Brixen, Bruneck) are over 80% German-speaking, you would have trouble telling you weren't in Austria.

Standard Italian is spoken too, so most people are tri-lingual and the 3 languages all have official status. A lot of younger people also have learnt English.

For more check out these Wikipedia articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhaeto-Romance_languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Bolzano-Bozen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%ABlva

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Gardena

The upshot is you've got German efficiency in the lift and snowmaking operation coupled with Italian sense of enjoyment and fun. With the food too, you can eat Wienerscnitzel, Gulaschsuppe and Strudel or have fresh pasta, pizza or polenta in the plentiful mountain restaurants. The architecture is mostly Tyrolean wooden chalet style, but less dour, it has a bit of Italian colour, ornamentation and filigree.

The best of both worlds! Very Happy
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erica2004, hope you get the chance to explore the area fully while you're there, you'll need the full Superski pass, some suggestions for ski days:

Seceda/Col Raiser bowl and the Val d'Anna run down to Ortisei, you need to get the underground train for this at the bottom of where you're staying.

The Sella Ronda, either way round, the clockwise (orange) route has a bit more challenge.

The Hidden Valley of Armentarola, a long day out but worth it.

The Edelweiss Valley above Colfosco, nice views from the terrace of the Forcelles hut, apparently a favourite snowHeads meeting place snowHead

A trip up the Sasso Pordoi cablecar, even to just enjoy the view and forget about the steep run down.

Over to the Marmolada glacier and back, are you feeling fit?

Or for an easy day just pootle around the area up above where you are staying around Piz Sella, Piz Seteur and up twd the Sella Pass and Col Rodella

There's quite a bit of info about these options on the forum already...
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Can anyone tell how long it will take us to get from San Cassiano to Corvara/Canazei (on skiis and lifts!!!)

Thanks
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simonmj66, to Corvara about 30 mins.

To Belvedere above Canazei about 2hrs (via Arabba), maybe a bit more if it's busy and you have to queue for the lifts or you take a wrong turn. Down to the village of Canazei would add about another 15mins.

Timings assume an intermediate skier.

Are you heading that way this year?
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Thanks m8.

Yep Mountain sun's chalet first weeek in Feb!

Cant wait
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simonmj66, you'll love it!


Back to snow reports, Tuesday's weather brought fresh snow across most of the Dolomites ski areas, Val Gardena reported 25cm of fresh. snowHead
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Also temps are dropping over the weekend and the chance of some light flurries. There'll be some good early season skiing for anyone heading out at the weekend.
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Over on the German alpinforum there's a nice trip report with photos taken last weekend (5/12) from the Dolomites, including Carezza, Arabba/Marmolada and Val di Fassa/Canazei:

http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=33531

There are some really interesting panorama shots from the Marmolada looking twd various peaks in the Dolomites and across the border in Austria, even one where you can see the Appenine chain over 300km away.

Here are a few that I've cribbed to illustrate the snowcover and state of the pistes, remarkably snowy for this early in the season:

1. Looking from the top of Belvedere twd Arabba



2.View of the Belvedere area above Canazei



3.View of the Sasso Pordoi cablecar station and the run down the Pordoi gulley


PS: Apologies if the pics are too large.
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We'll be ripping into that lot in 8 days time. wink
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Mollerski, looking good for you, perhaps not as good compacted depth as this time last year, but good base, pistes look complete, off piste is covered, it's just a matter of some fresh on the surface (forecasts are saying some snow for Tuesday & Wednesday) just before you arrive for some excellent skiing over Xmas week. snowHead
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Cold temps this week, the 0C isotherm doesn't rise above 900m all week, -7C at 2000m, will preserve the excellent piste conditions.Very Happy

More new snow is looking unlikely now. Sad

http://www.valgardena.it/en/meteo/page124.html
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luigi, Are you skiing in the Dolomites this winter?
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riverman, I'm holding out for a late package deal in Jan, so if something good turns up like last year, I will.


I'm keeping an eye on conditions in the Dolomites as well as other parts of the Alps, just depends where the best deal comes up, keeping my options open.

Are you heading that way?


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