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Would twintips hamper a childs progress in ski school?

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Minimum_1 rising 10 yrs gravitated towards twin tips at the ski test in the summer and I am considering getting her a pair. She has reached the 'I think I'm bomb proof' stage of skiing, i.e. just enough technique and fearlessness to get down most things pisted, has had the odd crack at off piste in experienced company, and loves trying to get air over small bumps. She still has ski school though and I would just like to know how a pair of twin tips would be viewed by the resort ski instructors she has at this stage (i.e. too much too early) and whether getting them would hamper any progress in terms of technique that she might still be gaining on 'standard' carving skis. Thanks
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Megamum, seems a bit pointless buying her skis at all given that she'll probably outgrow them from one seaosn to the next.
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Lizzard, Actually its running at a cost effective solution to hire costs, providing I stick with ones I can hand down to her brother and go second-hand. We drive to the alps so transport is not a problem, and with hire costs running at £40-£50 per week if I can buy for that (which you can) and get my friendly, tame snowhead to service them for me its actually cheaper to buy.
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Megamum, the only problem with twin tips is that you'll get spayed in the face when you follow her! With the kids I teach it doesn't matter what they use as long as it is the righ size and they enjoy skiing on it. And it's probably time she learnt to ski switch anyway. snowHead
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Absolutely no point agonising about it unless she is a aspiring racer. Twin tips are as good as anything for all round skiing.
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Megamum, I wouldn't worry. Twin Tips will be fine, and better if she has more fun.
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In general, twin tips are more forgiving of your weight being too far back. Some steer almost as well on their tails as their fronts.
A strict instructor would likely say that this encourages bad habits since the ski isn't feeding back as strongly when you're doing it wrong.
However, the other side to that is that it can give you a bit of a confidence boost as the skis just seem to handle better.

When I first put Gregory on twin tips, the shop didn't have his size in the right colour (camo) so he insisted on taking a pair 20cm longer than anything he'd ever skied before. This naturally made me a little nervous.
Whether it was the twin-tippedness or simply the colour-coordination we'll never know but after one run he declared, "I can turn these skis easier than anything, ever".
A season and a half later (3 weeks), he was comfortable on a majority of off-piste and had learnt to carve. That's when I put him on a pair of brand new slalom skis for a day and a whole new adventure began.

Skiing is, IMHO, about a balance between confidence and technique and one can't really progress without the other. With kids especially, a set of skis they love can sometimes improve their skiing more than a pair that is technically more 'proper' snowHead
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and get my friendly, tame snowhead to service them for me its actually cheaper to buy.
Shocked Hmmm.... i'm obviously not charging enough!!! wink Laughing
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Just got my daughter (13) a pair. I hired a pair for her last Easter for a park lesson which were huge (155 cm 122-92-116) but she still skied very well on them for 2 days and loved them.
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my daughters first skis were twins and she loves em... scares the life out of me in the park but.... theyre fun isnt that what its all about for kids... the only down side is me constantly having to try to get em into the poxy bubble car slots that never seem big enough to cater for twins.
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Colin B wrote:
Just got my daughter (13) a pair. I hired a pair for her last Easter for a park lesson which were huge (155 cm 122-92-116) but she still skied very well on them for 2 days and loved them.

Told ya wink Mind you,the fact that she could out ski us wearing dustbin lids probably helps Laughing
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snowskisnow, Yep, your 2 too wink You out there this Easter?
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Colin B, Regretfully no Sad Cant make the dates..so off on our long promised trip to Italy with Mountainsun Very Happy Have yet to tell ES..hope she doesn't shout at me Evil or Very Mad
Please try not to lag too far behind Nat...you know you'll never find your way home Laughing
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Have yet to tell ES..hope she doesn't shout at me

Almost certainly Smile We'll be there again this year. I'm off to Tignes with Mountainsun in December, their places are all pretty good I think.
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Colin B wrote:
their places are all pretty good I think.

They are excellent,as many on here can testify Toofy Grin If you've not been to Les Melezes before? you will love it.Great food,company with a very homely feel.Spent 3 days there on the Atomic thing,enjoyed every minute.It was that stay that persuaded us to go to the Dolomites with them....they all raved about it.So,next April we are Very Happy

Apologies to Megamum for the slight diversion Embarassed
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In general, twin tips are more forgiving of your weight being too far back. Some steer almost as well on their tails as their fronts.
A strict instructor would likely say that this encourages bad habits since the ski isn't feeding back as strongly when you're doing it wrong.
However, the other side to that is that it can give you a bit of a confidence boost as the skis just seem to handle better.

When I first put Gregory on twin tips, the shop didn't have his size in the right colour (camo) so he insisted on taking a pair 20cm longer than anything he'd ever skied before. This naturally made me a little nervous.
Whether it was the twin-tippedness or simply the colour-coordination we'll never know but after one run he declared, "I can turn these skis easier than anything, ever".
A season and a half later (3 weeks), he was comfortable on a majority of off-piste and had learnt to carve. That's when I put him on a pair of brand new slalom skis for a day and a whole new adventure began.

Skiing is, IMHO, about a balance between confidence and technique and one can't really progress without the other. With kids especially, a set of skis they love can sometimes improve their skiing more than a pair that is technically more 'proper' snowHead


I really wouldn't be bothered about a kid I'm teaching being on twins - I'm not sure about them being more forgiving of being in the back seat, but kids fore/aft balance can be a little funky anyway with growth spurts and stuff. Really not an issue - the only thing I'd make sure of is that they're mounted at the back of the recommended line, and not too park focused - since that'd affect the way they ski.

But yeah, the point about getting them to love skiing/their skis is pretty much key to teaching kids. I taught a girl last year that was terrified of her own shadow, had her own little pink skis - apparently getting her to sing high school musical while she skiied distracted her from the terror and she ripped Smile
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I taught a girl last year that was terrified of her own shadow, had her own little pink skis - apparently getting her to sing high school musical while she skiied distracted her from the terror and she ripped

Laughing I think my grand-daughter is going to be like that - I hope she has an instructor like you, DaveC.
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DaveC wrote:


But yeah, the point about getting them to love skiing/their skis is pretty much key to teaching kids. I taught a girl last year that was terrified of her own shadow, had her own little pink skis - apparently getting her to sing high school musical while she skiied distracted her from the terror and she ripped Smile


This is clearly sub-standard tuition surely CSIA approved tunes are Highway to Hell & Run to the Hills.
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