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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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johnw, bummer 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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johnw, best of luck with the recovery.
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johnw, Bad luck. Keep the faith though, and keep the physio - it'll pass quickly if you do.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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johnw, bad luck !!
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johnw, very bad luck.
I hope the operation goes well - and that you don't wait too long for it.
I am disturbed to read about the top age limit for ACL re-construction. That problem is discussed here.
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johnw, so sorry to hear that - lousy luck.
achilles, disturbing indeed.
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johnw, curse them moguls 
Hope your recovery is as speedy as speedy can be.
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I am disturbed to read about the top age limit for ACL re-construction.
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To be fair to the specialist concerned, he did say that his main criterion was the level of activity of the patient rather than any arbitrary age limit. He did point out though, that the success of the outcome may be affected by age. The recovery process is likely to be slower and the tendon that they use as a replacement will, itself be weakened by age.
I think my positive attitude plus the fact that he himself is a snowboarder  probably helped.
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johnw, It sounds like you will be back skipping down the slope in no time.
Good luck
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Bad luck - but of course its a badge of courage for any skier  I take it you don't have a BUPA type shortcut available though you'd still want welling to go down before the op anyway. Though its been discussed at length, don't forget that deferring reconstruction is an option. I skied worse this year on a new ACL than a number of previous winters without one & had some other complications to deal with.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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johnw, Bummocks. I hope that all goes well and that we will see you at Hemel again in the future.
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You know it makes sense.
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johnw, Sorry to hear about the injury, but all the very best for a speedy recovery
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| ...he himself is a snowboarder... |
Can you really trust this man???? 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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johnw, sorry to hear that Good luck with the recovery.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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johnw, all the best with your recovery
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johnw, Sorry to hear about your ACL - hope the surgery goes well. 
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johnw, sorry to hear that.
I know people who have had the surgery and people who declined it and went the route of custom braces. They are all still skiing but have very mixed opinions. One lady in know, who had the op, wishes she hadn't. Two guys who wear braces and have worked hard on the muscular support are happy as larry. I'm no expert but, now that you have done the damage and while you're waiting, is it worth exploring the non-op route ... with the say-so of someone qualified to have an opinion of course.
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Bode Swiller, I'd agree with that advice. My brother is a prime example of someone living life on the edge without as ACL. Since he tore it over 2 years ago now, he has continued to snowboard (scarily  ) , motorcycled round Africa, & sails tornados & F18's regularly - he's in the World Championships in a couple of weeks. He further tore his cartiledge on the bad knee 3 weeks ago, coming off the F18 trapeze at speed, but had an immediate arthroscopy & bits removed. The surgeon told him that his lack of ACL probably made no difference to the latest damage, & he is now in the gym daily in preparation for the Worlds in Belgium in a couple of weeks. He's 48 (nearly 49, only dont tell him I mentioned it)
That said, I think the key is to build up the surrounding muscles - regarding whether or not you are opting for repair.
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johnw, Sorry to hear your bad news. Best wishes for a prompt recovery!
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The operation was provisionally scheduled for early October. It will be a further 6 months before I can consider skiing again.
It looks as though I'll be out of action for next season
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Espace Killy will be open (as usual) until the May Day weekend, Grands Montets, Chamonix will be open until a week or so later - and good old Glencoe and Cairngorm are open until late April/early May. All may not be lost for next season!!
Failing that, the European glaciers are very decent throughout May and June.
Good luck.
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johnw,
Get yourself over to kneegeeks. Loads and loads of info and support there.
I ski without an ACL but with a brace...but I'm a very sedate 'holiday' skier. I went for the non-op route because I worked hard in the gym preparing for surgery and found that I had good stability and could do pretty much all the things I needed to. I left it with my surgeon that we could always re-visit the decision should things change. 2.5 years down the line now and still doing fine.
Good luck with the rehab. whatever you decide to do.
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Why do you have to wait so long for the reconstruction? Are the surgeons fully booked untill Oct?
I also advise strenghtening leg and core muscles as much as possible now.
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BodeSwiller, genepi, snowlamb,
I opted for surgery to make sure I was on the list, but also for the following reasons:
I am 61 years of age and already have some degenerative wear of the joint surfaces, I thought that having the ACL re-constructed would provide better protection to those surfaces and delay the need for knee replacement.
Also because of my age, it is increasingly difficult to build and maintain muscular strength, especially since the state of my joints precludes the use of heavy weights.
I spend most of my time teaching and training on the dry slope where a "lazy" style of skiing isn't really an option.
Having said that, I'd be happy to hear arguments to the contrary.
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johnw, Oh, dear, I hope all goes well in the finish.
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Nasty. I hope, though, that your recovery goes well.
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You know it makes sense.
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johnw, sorry to hear of this. My ACL snappage and SUrgery is blogged somewhere on here if you are interested...
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=29849&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=acl&start=0
I was told I am a borderline age at 37! but it may just depend on the surgeon's quota in your area (NHS)
Remember - you can ski without an ACL (as others have proved) but you shouldn't ski with a weak ACL after the op. The graft starts ok, gets weak as it dies off, then gets strong as new as new tissue grows into the 'scaffold'. I skipped a season just to be sure (But I did go to a snowheads bash) (oh yes, I did a bit of light skiing there too)
Good Luck.
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Remember - you can ski without an ACL (as others have proved) but you shouldn't ski with a weak ACL after the op. The graft starts ok, gets weak as it dies off, then gets strong as new as new tissue grows into the 'scaffold'. I skipped a season just to be sure (But I did go to a snowheads bash) (oh yes, I did a bit of light skiing there too)
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Agree with this - I got to 5.5 months before I tried (pretty gingerly) and it took another week or more skiing and some gentle falls before I got confident nothing bad would happen, of course the bad did happen later in the winter (to the other knee  ).
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Poster: A snowHead
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lampbus, thanks. Your blog is encouraging. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Firstly johnw, bad luck and hopefully you will have swift recovery! AND, make it back to BASI for another course soon!
I read this the other day and then subsequently read this on PlanetSKI and thought I would just drop it in here to see what you guys make of it? www.planetski.eu/news/599
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| ben.clatworthy wrote: |
Firstly johnw, bad luck and hopefully you will have swift recovery! AND, make it back to BASI for another course soon!
I read this the other day and then subsequently read this on PlanetSKI and thought I would just drop it in here to see what you guys make of it? www.planetski.eu/news/599 |
Intereresting, although it's not clear from the article how it works  .
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