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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Db, Good One! this is going to be controversial, wasn't a Swiss magazine was it or a septic? Verbier above Chamonix and St Anton, La Grave above Val d'Isere. Someone is having a laugh surely. Verbier is one of the most overrated apologies for a ski resort anyone and Televerbier has to be the worst ski lift company on the planet although there might one or two in Iran or India that could probably give them a run for their money. I have to sort out an internet connection while I'm away next week because I want to see how this thread develops.
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David - long time since I was in Verbier... the lifts were bad then, but I understand they have improved. Anyway, the nomination goes to the quality of the skiing for experts - and I would agree that Verbier comes pretty much towards the top. The off piste legendary & there are quite a few challenging pisted runs too.
You have to look at it from this point of view and forget about the lift system & poor quality of the intermediate & beginner runs throughout the rest of the resort.
La Grave v Val D'Isere - well I would dispute that one!!
Is this good enough to start the controversial banter?!!? 
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The omission of Les Arcs makes a mockery of this list. I'd put it in the top five. I'd question the inclusion of Solden and Lech. Schladming would be a better contender.
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I don't like agreeing with Goldsmith but I'd also throw Solden and Lech out of the expert top ten.
Thought Cham should be top (not that I've skied it yet though) anybody think otherwise?
Not skied Verbier yet either - where do people really think it should be in the list?
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Mmm. Can't possibly comment on the 'Expert' resorts, but I'm really surprised about a couple of omissions in the 'Intermediate' section. Can't believe Les Arcs isn't there, nor either Tignes or Val D'Isere - huge intermediate playgrounds. And if the lift system were better, I'd rank Cervina fairly highly as well - even the blacks are intermediate there, and the Zermatt link has got to put it in the top 10? I've no idea what criteria they are using, but surely Madonna de Campiglio is a bit small to be a serious intermediate contender? As for Davos and Klosters, any resort where you have to walk, bus, queue and cable car for an hour before you can even put your skis on will never be top of this intermediate's list! 
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Its all so subjective, but I find the omission of Les Arcs (apart from no. 9 for beginners!) rather odd. Ok it's not the prettiest resort, but combined with the La Plagne domain in terms of ski acreage alone it's supposedly the biggest in the world, well in front of 3V (but no 2 in terms of number of lifts, and no. 3 in terms of miles of piste). There's tremendous variety, superb off-piste, something for everyone. Trees, one of the longest blacks in Europe, speed skiing....
As I work from home (now in Bourg SM), we had the choice of moving anywhere (in France) last summer. After extensive research, this was definitely the place that fitted the bill, nowhere else came close.
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A very strange listing in my view. I never rated Verbier much. But I do rate Alpe D'Huez and Serre Chevalier above 3 vallees in most respects. Where are they ? And St Anton. Surely that is THE top resort for an intermediate/advanced in the world. And Zermatt only at 7 in the dining list ?
As usual any of these listings are dependant on who votes for them. Same as Westlife are the best band in the World ever.
And then I look a bit lower at the North American stuff. hilarious. Time for bed
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I'd rate Les Arcs well above La Plagne, though now that they are linked shouldn't it just be Paradiski? Also seems bizarre that they've listed Val d'Isere and Tignes as two seperate resorts considering they share the same ski area.
It would interesting to know what their definition for 'Expert' is - does it mean real off-piste, or challenging on-piste runs. Cham has to be top, surely? Though I agree Verbier has to up there (below VdI / Tignes) despite the lift system.
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I'm not a big fan of Chamonix to be honest, although I think that I've probably never seen it in its best light.
The Vallee Blanche is spectacular and I'm sure that the area has some of the best off-piste in the world. But for those here who do rate it highly: is it because of terrain that's really only accessible with a guide? I've only done 2 guided days in the area (one for the Vallee Blanche) and my experience of the pisted areas (or the easily accessible off-piste) isn't that great.
I've not skied all of the places mentioned so it's hard to judge. I'm a big fan and Serre Che and Alpe d'Huez as well, Martin, so they'd figure in my top 10.
I'm surprised to see Solden in there. I've not skied it but I was unaware that it was highly rated - I've never even considered it as a destination. And I don't think I'd have Lech in my top 10 for Experts.
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I'd also dispute trois vallees in the spectacular scenery category......
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The beginners list is upside down if you ask me. I love Cervinia, but I would certainly not take a first timer there, The loos could put you off skiing for Life!
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You know it makes sense.
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DB, What utter garbage. "Askmen"? Ask muppets, more like.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Well, they did describe David Beckham as "England's answer to the Spice Girls".
http://www.ntk.net/2004/02/27/dohbecks.gif
(The rest of the article is funny, too - "score goals from one side of the field to another"  )
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Poster: A snowHead
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what's so ridiculous about la grave being rated above val d'isere? as an "expert" ski area i'd rate it above anywhere in the world myself (altho i'm sure there's even steeper stuff in cham)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The problem with all these stupid top tens is that they just show how limited the reviewers are in their skiing.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Hi All
Newbie here (to Snowheads at least).
Is Klosters not so good then? We're going there in two weeks, and it's my first skiing holiday for 6 years so I've been really looking forward to it. We're staying in Klosters Platz near (allegedly) to the Gotshna cable car, if that means anything to anyone?
P.S. 
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