 Poster: A snowHead
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Hello all,
i am a beginner and learn parallel turn now.
In beginner slope, my speed is under control but not in immediate level.
i am not sure but i feel my stance is changed due to speed and my downhill leg is extended to much just during turn and the skis seperate apart widely.Help is needed!!!
i found skier practise parallel turn as followed:
1 Stand both skis still at right angle to slope
2 Pole plant at some where(??) downhill
3 Start rotate around the pole and stop sharply after turn
i tried but end up traversing very fast followed by a fall
i read books but no info. 
Love skiing,
Thanks
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sat 11-04-09 18:12; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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nicola_cl, welcome to snowHeads.
It could be that that your weight is mainly over the inside ski. The majority of your weight should be over the outside ski of the turn.
Best to have an instructor observe and coach you though - we can only guess on a forum (unless you can post some video).
Where do you ski?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Maybe you need to keep turning for longer so that you are heading less steeply downhill as you traverse; that was (is) my problem.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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still guessing what you are doing but may be this will help
1.superman stance leaning forwards
2. slowly down
3. poleplant turn
4.chin over yourdownhill ankle
5.control speed by skiing slightly uphill and dont come to stop you need some speed for your next turn
6.to infinity and beyond or was that buzz?
7 definitely have more lessons
good luck
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nicola_cl,
1. Don't rush the turn
2. Control the speed by finishing the turn further up the hill.
3. Don't rotate (skid) the skis.
4. Don't bother with pole plants at this stage.
Hope that helps. I'm not an instructor though.
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Thanks all pros.
Hi Laundryman,
NO SNOW where i live and practise once a year most oversea
Now, i start more serious and travel to a Little indoor dome in China.
Hello grivas,
After my practice this week, i think i lean to much forward.
Thanks for your reminder.
What is your meaning of "chin over yourdownhill ankle" and
"to infinity and beyound or was that buzz"
Please explain!
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Thanks again!
hi PJski,
i don't brother using pole at this stage.
i tried but even worse!!
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| PJSki wrote: |
3. Don't rotate (skid) the skis. |
Why not This will help to control speed
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My downhill leg is extended to much just during turn and the skis seperate apart widely. This happened in my non-dorminant leg most of the time when the speed is out of my scope!!
If my shoulder is always facing downhill(upper and lower body seperation), how come to twist the lower body to traverse a bit uphill for speed control!!! 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| stewart woodward wrote: |
| PJSki wrote: |
3. Don't rotate (skid) the skis. |
Why not This will help to control speed |
Exactly. She asked for advice on parallel skiing, not carving the turn. A steered skid all the way around the turn will be the most effective way of controlling speed.
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nicola_cl, As you turn back uphill to lose the speed then your shoulders will not be facing downhill, they will have to come round and face across the slope a little.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Read that recently, when someone else linked to it. Phil writes very clearly.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| stewart woodward wrote: |
| PJSki wrote: |
3. Don't rotate (skid) the skis. |
Why not This will help to control speed |
Exactly. She asked for advice on parallel skiing, not carving the turn. A steered skid all the way around the turn will be the most effective way of controlling speed. |
Was in a hurry to go out and typed don't instead of do.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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nicola_cl, dont worry about grivas,s superman stance or where your chin is or skiing slightly uphill.thats a load of clap trap.keep it simple.i second whatlaundryman, said.weight on outside ski.get an instructor.good luck
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Sun 12-04-09 15:14; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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This little favorate demonstration by the instructor is pretty dangerous for beginers, IMO.
While the first half of the turn around the poles encourage proper weight over the downhill ski, once the skier gone below the pole, hanging on to the (now up hill) pole causes the all too common problem of leaning uphill.
I think this is one demo that falls under the "don't try this at home (by yourself)" type of move.
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The speed is building because you are not completing you turn(s) and so cannot keep it under control. Over the internet it is hard to diagnose exactly what the problem is (without video). A good instructor will be able to help you.
Typical problems are not enough weight on the outside ski, weight too far back and not being aggressive enough with the edges.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| nicola_cl wrote: |
i found skier practise parallel turn as followed:
1 Stand both skis still at right angle to slope
2 Pole plant at some where(??) downhill
3 Start rotate around the pole and stop sharply after turn
i tried but end up traversing very fast followed by a fall |
I'm not surprised all that was followed by a fall! Judging by your description, you are very confused.
It is almost impossible to advise you without seeing your skiing and knowing what kind of turning you are trying to develop into parallel turns. It could be that I would want to take you back to a step or two - even to a plough swing - in order to consolidate the basic elements of turning on which the progression to parallel would be better founded. Maybe not! you might be within a whisker of doing basic parallel turns and just need a few pointers.
You really need a few lessons. Are you near a dry or indoor slope where you could get the help you need?
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| nicola_cl wrote: |
i found skier practise parallel turn as followed:
1 Stand both skis still at right angle to slope
2 Pole plant at some where(??) downhill
3 Start rotate around the pole and stop sharply after turn
i tried but end up traversing very fast followed by a fall |
Thanks all.
Is this call parallel stop?? Or short of J-turn?
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| nicola_cl wrote: |
Thanks all.
Is this call parallel stop?? Or short of J-turn? |
You say you start with your skis "still" so aren't you stopped already? Sounds as if you attempted a jump turn and didn't get your skis far enough round and so started moving off. Not the way I would develop your parallel turns but something you would later find useful to have in your repertoire.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| ccl wrote: |
| nicola_cl wrote: |
Thanks all.
Is this call parallel stop?? Or sort of J-turn? |
You say you start with your skis "still" so aren't you stopped already? Sounds as if you attempted a jump turn and didn't get your skis far enough round and so started moving off. Not the way I would develop your parallel turns but something you would later find useful to have in your repertoire. |
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[quote="nicola_cl"]
| ccl wrote: |
| nicola_cl wrote: |
i found skier practise parallel turn as followed:
1 Stand both skis still at right angle to slope
2 Pole plant at some where(??) downhill
3 Start rotate around the pole and stop sharply after turn
i tried but end up traversing very fast followed by a fall |
Thanks all.
Is this call parallel stop?? Or sort of J-turn? |
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Nicola - I think you must be having difficulties with using the forum. Maybe you should just post what you want to say without using the quote button?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Or try a forum in your native language.
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