Poster: A snowHead
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We started in Borovets in Bulgaria - a bit tacky, and the lifts are closed too often.
Then we went to Bankso - more queues.
Then Val D'Isere - they know how to get you up the mountain but they are kidding with the slope grading. Thought Le Face, although a little bit challenging for me, was a great buzz.
Then Courchevel last Feb - lovely, and never met a single Russian. We went in the shops for a look but didn't spend any money.
And each July we go to Les Deux Alpes (which probably beats the winter trips).
So, where shall we go this coming Feb ? Must have snow, and shops, trees are good,..what's La Plagne like ? It keeps popping into my head, as does La Rosiere.
Not over the Atlantic cos the flight is too long for a week, mind you it could be very cheap. France is favourite as I speak a little.
I sort of feel like I've reached a plateau with Courchevel.
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micky, don't go anywhere in France in February, after the first week. That is, unless you positively enjoy lift queues and crowded slopes.
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We will probably go last week of Feb, me and my son cos that's when he can get time off from uni. We will go in a large catered chalet. Any shops are ok just so long as there are some. We didn't find queues in Val or Courchevel in Feb but we do avoid the main UK half term week.
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micky, have pm'd
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Lech, you will love it.
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micky wrote: |
So, where shall we go this coming Feb ? Must have snow, and shops, trees are good,..what's La Plagne like ? It keeps popping into my head, as does La Rosiere. |
Oh man... No, no no, not La Plagne what ever you do... It's an utter whole, and the other place, well I ask you... see posts passim on here but, well, no!
Go to the french speaking part of Switzerland - Verbier perhaps for your first foray into the dark and thrilling world of off piste.
Better still forget the lingo aspect and head East where the real action is, Davos, Lech, Ski Welt and you'll learn that there's so much to be added to a ski trip by atmosphere, food and manners! enjoy!
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If you've found a way of having a cheap skiing holiday across the pond I'd do that while you have the opportunity.
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micky, snow and shops and trees?
You want Zermatt.
Not France, but a real town with real atmosphere.
You'll never think so highly of Courchevel again.
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I'm a bit confused about the shops reference - and you're talking about going with your son? Shops should only be used for (a) a quick flick through the latest ski/board gear (aka ski porn) (b) stocking up on food and booze if self-catering or (c) something to keep the other half amused with whilst you're going down another run. Any other activity related to shops on a skiing holiday is either a waste of skiing or drinking time..
Given that you've talked about chucking yourself down the face, then allow me to suggest: -
Les Arcs - other side of the Vanoise from La Plagne - got some amusing blacks above the arc2000 bowl, and some good off piste opportunities.
St. Anton - good skiing, some easy off-piste potential with the itinerary routes, amusing apres ski and the opportunity to day trip to lech
Morzine - PDS domain so more skiing than you can ever get bored off, some good night life and more females to males (probably) than st. anton.
I don't understand why red27 has such a downer on la plagne - provided you stay in the right bit then it ticks most boxes - ok it's not chocolate box pretty but no much in the french alps is (flaine anyone). Whilst I haven't directly been to la ros (but I will do) I would guess that any resort which is positioned as good for learners/families you are going to want to move on from..
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bertie bassett wrote: |
I don't understand why red27 has such a downer on la plagne... |
bertie bassett I guess it takes allsorts
I had a terrible holiday in La P at the fag-end of a shy-t relationship in bad snow in a crap chalet... so I am a little biased...
But... there is a lot to hate... The 'architecture' is gratingly ghastly, and I found the skiing plain and the scenary strangely dull, but the worst aspect was the awful restaurants and bars and the terrible attitude from all the serving staff - a product I think of all those purpose built resorts where staff have to be bussed in.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Ischgl, Lech, Klosters, Davos, Zermatt make Courchevel look tacky. The 3V do have great slopes.
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You know it makes sense.
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red 27 wrote: |
bertie bassett wrote: |
I don't understand why red27 has such a downer on la plagne... |
bertie bassett I guess it takes allsorts
I had a terrible holiday in La P at the fag-end of a shy-t relationship in bad snow in a crap chalet... so I am a little biased...
But... there is a lot to hate... The 'architecture' is gratingly ghastly, and I found the skiing plain and the scenary strangely dull, but the worst aspect was the awful restaurants and bars and the terrible attitude from all the serving staff - a product I think of all those purpose built resorts where staff have to be bussed in. |
Hmm well looks like you've ticked 3 of the boxes for a crap holiday - of which obviously the bad snow is the worst..
I've found some decent bars and restaurants in la plagne - the top of melezes was a great apres ski vin chaud spot, the one down from the roche de mio was pretty good for a mountain top place. We had a great NYE in belle plagne - it's unfair to tar them all with the same brush, and as to the service well it is france and you can't expect the 'have a nice day cheez' you get in the usa. Although I do remember coming off the vanoise one day peak season heading to les arcs to see 3 or 4 resort guys 'n' girls handing out les arcs piste maps, a big white board with the lift open/closed for the main lifts (aguille rouge / col de renard etc) and ready to answer questions too.
Yeah so it doesn't have the charm of a valley place such as st.anton, lech, kitz etc but then you don't have to get on a lift or bus to get on the snow. You've also got to love the beginner lessons in belle plagne - down through the village, sod any ski lifts, just walk into the aparment building and take the 'otis' lift...
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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micky, went to Belle Plagne a few years ago and that was supposed to be the prettiest of the villages - my God, how wrong could they be. La Plagne has great ski convenience but sadly lacking on the charm and apres ski front (certainly BP anyway). Also very expensive in my opinion for eating out etc, and more expensive than Lech for example to eat out. I would definitely give Austria a bash, but I am biased towards Austria, having skied France several times. I discovered St Anton in 2003 and have not looked back - great for a boys trip, not great for beginners. Going to Austria will open your eyes to proper apres ski, especially if you go to St Anton, Ischgl, Saalbach, Mayrhofen or Solden.
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Poster: A snowHead
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micky, The Sella Ronda/Dolomites resorts of Selva, Arabba, Corvara were great for snow and the scenery is far prettier than France and more dramatic than Austria (only been to Ski Amade region though). For shops though, I think you would need to stay in or near to Cortina to get a Courchevel like experience.
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red 27, I agree that Plagne Centre was SHOIT. the underground mall type setting with rubbish resturants and the "smoking outside" was atually inside the mall so you had to walk through coridoors of smoke to get around... urgh !!
However, La Plagne as a whole is a good resort for skiing (which is the main aspect) loads of off piste and lower tree lined runs. Apres is generally what you make it. micky, if you are staying in a ctered chalet, coubt this will be a problem and you'll have a good night time wherever you go.
I actuall preferred les arcs to la plagne but i cannot put my finger on why as I was in arc 1800 which isnt too unlike Plagne center and the snow was good both times. I'd opt for Arc 1950 of the two tho with a day in la plagne on the lift pass.
I prefer skiing in france but prefer the apres in austria.
Why dont you try LDA in the winter ?? You can relive all those classic runs on a mountain bike when you go in July !!??
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Actual shopping or window shopping? Three places for either plus great skiing and great atmosphere are Zermatt, Lech or Madonna di Campiglio in the Dolomites.
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Try Alpe D'Huez, it's a great resort - my only criticism would be that the pistes back to the bottom get crowded at the end of the day.
Also Les Arcs is worth a try and St Anton in Austria was one of my favourites.
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