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Nordica.
I'm a CSIA Level 2 instructor and have 2 skis from the Hot Rod range (although not the eliminator) and they tend to be good all round blasting through variable snow types-probably good in Australia, skied the Recon and was decidedly unimpressed. The Scott is probably too parky but then again should be good for your "50%off piste". Don't like Rossignol skis. No reason-just don't!
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Scott Neo. Really something around 90mm in the waist, but this subject has been done to death. 
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timo08,
Skis that rail the piste but will take you off the side easily enough are;
Movement Spark
Stockli XL... in its various new guises, but if it is a Stockli and they say it handles the piste, expect it to have a vice like grip on ice
Apache Recon. A good do it all ski. It can be as lifeless as you want it...but will wake up as well
For your stats, the XL in 174 or 184 will be two different beasts. I think the 174 will wallow a bit off piste at 90kgs
The Spark 184 is the perfect size, IMO, for you, but you might need to temper that with how you ski....coming back to it after 10 years.
Recon in 174 is too small, 181 would be better, but again...depends how 'on the ski' you are, IMO
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Nordican hot rod eliminator! Great skis did everything that they where asked not great in short radius turns but a small sacrifice to make. Happy shopping 
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Rossi B2 and B3, skiied similar on piste to me.. good grip...the wider B3 better in deeper, the B2 more agile.
Hated them both... just like admin... they were handling ME by the tails of the ski.... opposed to me sending the ski somewhere and they do it.
They changed the skis a bit with the b78/b83 scheme, so my experience may not be worth anything...
Try before you buy!!!
Oh, and with you stats you surely can have a longer ski. I'm 6'1 and 80 Kg, and a 183 Movement Spark was no problem at all... 185 K2 Seths were no problem either (but i hated them for being too wide, sideways load on the knees when on piste)
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I've got B2s, and this is my experience. They perform well in powder, great in crud and fantstic in bumps. On the other hand, I find they suffer a bit even in good piste conditions, and the thing they are terrible at is holding an edge on ice. I would think that would rule them out for you.
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I plumped for the Recons and found them bootylicious (I can't say what that actually means because I haven't been chilling with the dudes for long enogh). They did everything I asked of them on and off piste. Any mistakes were down to me asking the wrong question.
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Scott Neo
My friend brought one of these earlier this season and doesn't shut up about them. I dont know why they are parky, because they're no more of a park ski than the Bandit skis are.
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Definately try first - shortlist based on recommendations, then try as many as you can. I'd be surprised if you ended up buying the skis you thought you would - I only ever have once (K2 Extremes circa 1991). Every other time, the pre-test favorite/most highly recommended was disapointing.
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Scott Neo .... i have them in 176 and am similar to yourself although 85kg.
Good ski, decent in powder, hold an edge well, have a semi-twin tip so good for learning a bit of switch. Maybe not as nice on piste as something like a Dynastar Legend 8000, but i can deal with that for the extra width.
They're also rare as rocking horse poo-poo (saw an ESF instructor on a pair in Morzine one day but that's it).
I think they look damn cool too
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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timo08, I bought some Neos earlier in the year and have now skied them in La Clusaz (family trip) and La Grave (boys trip). In those two trips I reckon we covered most things in terms of slopes and conditions. Greens with the kids through to steep(ish) couloirs on ice, powder, breakable crust, etc as well as a few obligatory moguls. Best all-rounder I've ever skied - coped admirably with everything on and, more importantly, off-piste. By the end of the La Grave trip, two of the guys were planning on getting a pair for next season! Of course there are better specialist skis, but without the budget, space or the caddy... My only regret was not waiting as the prices have come right down, perhaps due to the graphics!? Agree with Viceversa, don't know why anyone would term them a park ski.
Regarding Rossis, I tried last year's B2s and B3s. The former were dull; the latter was better but not a patch on the Neos. Another ski that was mentioned a few times by shops in La Clusaz was the Dynastar Legend Mythic Rider - a bit more agressive but apparently very good all-round.
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You should DEFINITELY consider the Elan Magfire range. Admittedly, you won't find them at Snow and Rock or Ellis Brigham because they don't sell em.
Details here:
http://www.elanskis.com/defaultc.asp?xpath=/products/skis/magfire&xpathid=&lang=eng
I considered these:
* K2 Apache (Recon, Crossfire)
* Rossignol Z9 and Z11
* Salomon Tornados
* Elan Magfire range
Plus some others I forget.
Research suggested the Elan Magfire 10s were best for me. I read a lot of reviews of the various skis that people who tested them had written.
Got a pair the other week and will be trying them out properly next month.
Unless you ski off piste most of the time, don't go too wide.
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You know it makes sense.
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As others have said, consider going longer than 175cm. I'm the same height and weight as you and ski 183cm in that type of ski. Haven't tried anything off your shortlist, but would recommend trying Head Monsters (78 or 82). Ellis Brigham sell them, so you should be able to demo.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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timo08, its usually preference, i prefer a shorter piste ski (162) but a longer freeride ski usually towards 180. Try different lengths.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I'm just under 5'10" and fairly light and had great fun demoing a pair of mid fat 186 cm skis. I'd say go long if you want float in the rough stuff.
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timo08, came back from 10 years of boarding myself last winter. I went for Scott Missions and have not regretted it one bit. They carve like my alpine board did and float like my 182 tanker.
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| nessy wrote: |
| I went for Scott Missions and have not regretted it one bit. |
I'm glad you said that, because I've been wanting to since this thread started, but didn't dare because I've maybe been recommending them too much
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I really want to demo the Punishers... basically the Missons with twin tips.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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RachelQ, I can't claim to have skied the alternatives. Originally I was looking at skis in the mid 70s wide (and shorter as well) but the Missions were recommended to me and I was amazed at how easy they were to ski.
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