 Poster: A snowHead
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Many of the big name skis now come as a package with integrated bindings.
So if you buy the ski you have to buy a binding.
Is this a racket ?
Retailers get more money on each purchase. Binding manufacturer associated to a particular ski automatically makes a sale too.
I notice that there is very little explanation of bindings nowadays. It is just a paragraph next to the main ski ad.
Suppose you do not like a particular binding manufacturer ? If they are in a package you have to reject the ski as well.
In the old days, preference was given to particular brands according to the country you were in e.g. Tyrolia in Austria, Salomon in France.
I'm not sure how this new trend will pan out.
To end on a positive note, one brand of integrated binding does seem particularly easy to adjust for different boot sizes.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Latchigo wrote: |
Many of the big name skis now come as a package with integrated bindings.
So if you buy the ski you have to buy a binding.
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You can often buy the same skis naked as well. It may be that the shop doesn't stock them though.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| You can often buy the same skis naked as well. |
 Do the shop assistants join in the fun?
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I guess there's two types of "integrated" binding.
First is the one where you have a unique mounting system, e.g. Salomon's Pilot, or Marker's rail.
Then you have the one where a pre-drilled riser plate is fitted to the ski, and is designed to take one of a range of bindings.
Riser plates can be removed and replaced with blanks, so, theoretically, you could put whatever binding you wanted on, but it would cost more.
The retaillers don't make more money on the integrated systems, as they are charged more by manufacturers who force them to buy their bindings.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I had in mind what you call a 'unique mounting system'.
The term 'riser plate' I associate with those attachments you could buy to get more banked turns on carving skis.
I have not seen those advertised in the UK this season.
So the standard choice, in the the UK anyway, is normally attach binding directly to ski or buy ski with unique mounting system binding.
Shops also do packages on, say, Rossignol Bandits where you can buy Rossignol bindings; but you can buy Bandits skis without bindings.
My point is how long before Rossignol decide they are missing a trick ?
You could also counterclaim that Rossignol was the best selling ski in the UK partly because many people could transfer perfectly good bindings from their old skis.
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I have some Volkls with their unique bindings, the beauty of them is that they adjust easily for a big range of boot lengths. Likewise for a couple of pairs of Atomics I've got. OTOH, I've some Looks drilled into the Zags and they're not very adjustable so they fit one pair of my boots fine but the other is a problem.
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