 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi All
As may be gathered from comments elsewhere, I'm thinking of buying a new pair of skis, one pair that will serve me for everything.
I'm intrigued by the new salomon scream limited amongst others, and looking around I had a thought that I might be able to buy ski only and remount some old bindings, in order to lighten the load on the wallet 
My pocket rockets have s921Ti bindings which seem to be quite different to the Salomon Serie 5 bindings that I was considering taking off Mrs NBT's old Dynastar Max 8 skis: the skis have a large gouge in the base and the local ski tech told us they were almost done for, so we've replaced them with some scream 8 pilots. Those Bindings had come off Mrs NBT's even older Kastle straight skis, but obviously couldn't go on to the pilot bindings as they're designed to work with Salomon's new style - at least I'm assuming they are.
Anyway, my choices as I see them are:
Sell all my skis, buy one new pair including new bindings
sell the pocket rockets, hope to sell the crappy rossignols, re-use the bindings from the Dynastars
your thoughts? Are the new salomon spheric bindings that much better? Mrs NBT is quite convinced that if she'd had the spheric bindings the release action would have prevented her from tearing her calf muscle when she fell awkwardly in Fernie two seasons ago. I admit that they're better and spangly stuff is always good, but are they really £100 better? A saving of around £100 is always worth considering.
Also, anyone know of any offers on the Salomon Scream skis anywhere? I've found one place doing last years's Scream 10 pilot hot for 450 (incl bindings) and the scream limited for 299 ski only, 399 with bindings
Links below to show the bindings and the various skis I currently have - the pics once you ge to full size are quite high resolution. You can see the damage on the Dynastars quite clearly, I hope
Cheers
NBT
Salomon Serie 5 Bindings
Dynastar Max 8 skis
Rossignol CutZ 9.6 skis
Pocket Rocket skis
p.s. if anyone fancies any of these skis and wants further details let me know. They'll be in the "for sale" section soon-ish anyway
pps sorry for going on for so long
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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nbt, The serie 5 bindings are the Qudrax ones ? The toe piece is not so sophisticated as the910ti, and (for the Screams) you will need wider brakes - so new bindings may be the answer.
You can re-use old bindings, my favourite pair (some 997s) are now on their third set of skis - you do need to get them tested every now and then to make sure the release still works as it should.
The other thought I have is why sell the Max 8s - they look like a great pair of rock skis to me !
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I have got some Tyrolia 390D bibdings new in 1986 are they worth taking off my old Blizzard Firebirds and keeping for a second set of skis.
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Russell, definately not.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Thanks ski, that kind of helps me decide.
As for why sell the skis? Carrying more than one pair each is too much hassle. Wanna buy some rock skis?
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David@traxvax, I didnt think so, anyone want some firewood? 
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nbt, check with your local shop. They can tell you whether or not the S921Ti bindings are indemnified this year.
Here is a link to a number of lists. It looks like your Salomons are not on it! Unless you meant 912Ti. If they are on the list, they are effectively close enough to "current technology" that the manufacturer says that they are fine to mount on new skis.
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I did mean 912Ti, but they'll be staying on the pocket rockets as they definitly have a wider brake then normal.
Iwas hoping to move the Serie 5 bindings, but now I'm leaning towards getting a package of new skis and bindings.
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Other versatile skis similar to the Scream 10 pilot hot that you may wish to consider are .....
Monster i.M 75 Chip SR2
Atomic Metron B5
Elan M555
Higher offpiste bias .....
Elan M666
Dynastar Legend 8000
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Wed 1-12-04 15:25; edited 1 time in total
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They will not be listed as in current use. They were made before the DIN standard became universal, the springs will have lost resilience, they may have rusted/seized. Also to my mind, Tyrolia were never good bindings in the first palce, commonly referred to Tyratlias. Now if want a pair of Tyrolia 490s we got some on an old pair of skis that adorn our porch, sometimes used to prop the door open, can't think of a better use for them.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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DB, thanks for that, must admit I am influenced by the hype and know little about skis made by companies other than salomon. I might check out some of your recommendations
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Whooo, almost £100 more for the Metrons, though!
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You know it makes sense.
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Fischer RX8 (turnier)
Fischer RX9 (longer, smooth)
But, the Metron b5s are really, really nice!
(I'm getting both a new pair of RX8s [165cm] and M:b5s [162cm]. I can't believe I can ski on something that short!!!!!)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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ssh,
Read good reports on the RX8s but thought they were a bit too narrow to be a good all-rounder (not having the float in the soft stuff). Have you tried them in powder?
nbt,
I would look futher than just Salomon, best to try a few skis first before parting with cash. Maybe keep onto your old skis for one season and rent a few other models throughtout the season then buy the ski you like in the end of season sales.
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Thu 2-12-04 14:55; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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There's just one antique binding I'd confidently ski, and we're talking a 30 year vintage:
The Look N77
Magnificent piece of engineering, protection virtually as good as the best bindings made today.
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David, you are talking about the best binding ever made, the only competition being the old Marker racing binding with turntable heel and exposed springs. If you come to chalet Le Mouflon the only bindings you'll see our skis are Looks, apart from a solitary Salomon Pilot. Nostalgia, definitely not what it used to be.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Buy any other binding and it'll be money for old rope.
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David Goldsmith, I have an engineering issue with THAT binding: I do not believe the toepiece bottom plate is adequate for skis without metal. Pressure on top the boot lug gets transferred to the ski, effectively levering the screws out of the ski.
I was as angry as I could be when this happened to my Elan RC 05s. Oh, wait, that could have been dryrot in the wood cores. Well, I was mad at the time anyway.
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nbt,
If you're selling your Rossis on this site, 'crappy' is probably not the most inspired description. 
I have a pair of oldish scream 10 pilots I might be willing to swap for rockets, mainly because my wife would throw a wobbly if I bought a fifth pair of skis.
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MartinH, Just being honest.
Local ski shpo has scream 10 pilot hot for £488, new, with s912Ti bindings.
I keep thinking I should really hire, but the plain fact is I own skis already so being short on cash (if I ever have any "spare" it means I can afford another ski trip - we're hoping for three this year!  ) I think about hiring then decode to just go out instead.
In Fernie I got in a few runs on different skis as the Ski Canada Magazine testers were in town and on the fiorst day some of the skis were available for the general public to play with
decisions, decisions...
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David Goldsmith, I know these are good bindings, though the word 'antique' reminded me of a quote from Snow Crazy:
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I know one thing, sking can be dangerous enough without taking risks with bindings. New skis and new bindings for me, without question.
Sell everything but the rockets unless you are sure your new purchase can do what they do.
I always hire which works out about £100.00 a week but I get to try whatever I fancy and new for the season. It may be expensive but it saves on servicing. Athough I have been to a few shops recently which have charged me to change skis, not too impressed with that but then they do have to service them, I suppose.
That said, I am perplexed what to look for this year. B5's or 4800/6200 maybe!
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FAQ
but I've still got my 390D's in the attic waiting for use again. What's wrong with them? they were state of the art, err, fifteen years ago 
