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Just found out that smoking is to be banned in bars in france from Jan 1st.
Great.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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i cant believe that, everyone in france must be up in arms. Everyone smokes in bars! that is crazy.
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It'll be just like every other law in France - it won't be observed, so I'll be able to smoke to my hearts content, and ensure I blow lots of smoke over moaning Brits eating their dinner 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Guvnor wrote: |
| It'll be just like every other law in France - it won't be observed, so I'll be able to smoke to my hearts content, and ensure I blow lots of smoke over moaning Brits eating their dinner |
The only difference is that from 1st Jan the moaning brits will be able to have you thrown out rather than rely on your good manners.
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Christopher, the only people who seem seriously annoyed at the moment are the proprietors of tabacs.
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Some of the bars have already become non-smoking. If the law works in Italy, I can't see why it won't (eventually) do so in France.
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jbob, I'll leave straight after the French smokers....
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I understand the the penalties are severe.
75 euros or in many cases death.
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75 euros or in many cases death
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Death Pahh, Smokers aren't scared of death..
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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However, smoking will not be banned completely in Casino's in France ann exemption has been made for them.
Someone remind are French Casino's operated by members of the 'family' 
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Quite a few bars in Chamonix went no-smoking last year in advance of the ban, much to my surprise. I haven't noticed any flagrant disregard of it yet, though I was expecting to see loads.
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You know it makes sense.
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| However, smoking will not be banned completely in Casino's in France |
Urgh. Smoking in supermarkets? Yuk.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Fantastic !
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hooray - air I can breathe while I eat!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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stanton, yeah one of the worst aspects of skiing in austria is the smoking. I can't stand smoke filled bars and cafes.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| juice wrote: |
I understand the penalties are severe.
75 euros or in many cases death. |
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| waynos wrote: |
| stanton, yeah one of the worst aspects of skiing in austria is the smoking. I can't stand smoke filled bars and cafes. |
Me also. Thats why I onlly go to non-smoke places 
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Why you put up with me for all them years, then, stanton? Oh, and I do remember you being in the Underground last year who's propriotor I seem to remember smokes like a chimney!
But yes, it will be good when it is finished in Austria and I can get home from Jacksy's without smelling like an ash tray. 
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some english run pubs are opening non smoking, seeing as the english are used to it.
Personally i think the smoking ban cant come quick enough!
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snowangel., I agree. Even a couple of the Monetier restaurants have become non-smoking recently.
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brian
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easiski, it's canton by canton in Switzerland. There's a ban in Ticino (the Italian speaking part) and I think there might be one coming in Geneva. Don't know about Berne though.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I was amused recently by a notice in a hostel where I stayed in Estonia that read:
Please do not smoke in the hostel.
It is illegal and some people have actually died from smoking.
Besides, the smoke alarms will go off and they're bloody loud.
They had a smoking ban come in a few months ago, but some bar have special smoking rooms which seem to be made out of perspex and are more than a little similar to gas chambers. Locals would, one at a time, wander in and speed-smoke a cirgarette before rejoining their friends.
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...And i was thinking to move to france...
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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easiski, when i was in canada smokers there were outside in -30 or less, whilst I enjoyed the nice clean air, sipping at my nice cool beer.  Smoking will cost you VDT
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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easiski,
I would say standing outside a bar anywhere in Ireland this evening would be a much more unpleasant experience than standing outside in the cool, crisp air of the mountains. We don't get much frost, but with damp air the windchill is pretty severe.
I recall sitting outside the Polar bear at the PSB and found it quite pleasant.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I think some resort bars are going non-smoking from the start of this season rather than implement the ban after the season has started.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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stab, smoking is banned on all trains in Switzerland
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I never laughed so much. Complete BS.
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Why? It's perfectly true to say that a) alcohol is a worse problem and b) smoking does not change a person's personality. Though it's probably overstating the case to say that the ban will be 'dangerous' since no-one actually has to smoke at all and people could just wait until they got home.
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Smoking -"Some 86,500 people died in England on average each year from 1998 to 2002, the Health Development Agency said" source BBC
Alcohol- "The number of alcohol-related deaths has more than doubled from 4,144 in 1991 to 8,386 in 2005." source Office of Nat Statistics
So aprox. 10X more die from smoking.
Alcohol mainly kills through misuse whereas smoking just kills
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Also if you smoke in the same room as me it could harm my health wereas if you drink alcohol in the same room as me you only perhaps damage your health
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jbob, does that alcohol-related deaths figure include people stabbed by p!ssed teenagers and run over by drunk drivers, or is it just the ones who managed to kill themselves without involving any of the rest of us?
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Nice try lizzard you can haggle with me, but you really can't negotiate with Lung Cancer.
Interestingly the stats are far more flaky on second hand or is it second lung smoke, you are 80X more likely to get Lung Cancer as a smoker and the non smokers who do get Lung Cancer often have an identifiable non cigarette related provoking factor, ie some industrial process they have worked in, although if you live with a heavy smoker or work in a smoky pub you are also in the firing line.
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FAQ
its banned on the trains in wengen 
