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Ski boot cant

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I have some Salomen Permora 8 ski boots. They have a cant adjustment. What does this do?
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Adjusts the degree to which your ankle flexes.
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Lizzard, ..I think ankle flex is covered elsewhere,

chect2000 'Canting adjustment' is a method of adjusting your skis and boots so the ski is flat on the snow, when you are in a comfortable skiing / standing position. Some people have varying levels of leg mis-alignment which can cause the inner, or outer edges to 'ride up' and thus not allowing the ski to be flat on the snow surface. It's not normally a big problem, but it can be evident when trying to glide. With one edge, even slightly in the snow, speed will decrease.

I think some bootfitters may have some special kit to test for this properly and to adjust it out.

....maybe a zookeeper, or some other highly respected person in this field will add to this .... Toofy Grin


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Lizzard, no cant adjustment is for bow legs or knock knees to keep the boot flat in a standing position.
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BernardC, brian, blatant guess! Laughing I never bother fiddling with my feet.
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chect2000, Cant adjustement is to allow the cuff of the boot to conform correctly to the morphology of the lower leg, ie if you are slightly knock kneed, then the cuff should be inclined inwards to follow the leg and NOT outwards to compensate. It is very difficult to adjust this properly yourself and I would recommend seeing someone who understands what they are doing as amongst other factors footbeds will also have an important effect on the stability of your foot and lower leg.
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LARGEZOOKEEPER, .. do you do this in Chamonix or know of any specialists around?

... as a proud ZOOKEEPER, boot owner, I fell I should be told ... Toofy Grin

I do know of one - Bernard CHESNEAU in Val d'Isere. Apparently he has some specialised equipment and is recomended - although I have heard him described as 'being in and out of touch with reality' ... Toofy Grin
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BernardC, as LARGEZOOKEEPER expalains the cuff cant adjustment is there to allow rthe boot to conform to the morphology of the lower leg, underbinding canting, underfoot wedges and sole planing are all methods of adjusting the overall postion of the boot in relation to the leg or the foot in relation to the ankle, for the vast majority of people a well made footbed and the cuff cant adjustment is enough to keep you in the right place in the boot, going to the next level is generally used to enhance performance when there are other issues present.

the majority of skiers i see could do a lot worse than working on core stability as this is the key to true alignment


boot canting services are available from LARGEZOOKEEPER, SMALLZOOKEEPER, CEM, and other bootfitters should you so wish Toofy Grin couldn't possible comment about anyone in Val D Little Angel
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Ah, we're into a real rat's nest here...
BernardC wrote:
I do know of one - Bernard CHESNEAU in Val d'Isere. Apparently he has some specialised equipment and is recomended - although I have heard him described as 'being in and out of touch with reality' ... Toofy Grin

I spent an "interesting" evening with Bernard last season. A very, very interesting evening. Almost surreal.

I went because my knees track together. And no amount of the exercises that instructors are so happy to dole out would work.

Did it work? Yep. Well, I say "yep" in a "I suspect it could be even better, but it's certainly much better than it was" sort of way.

Would I recommend it? Yes and no. You've got to know why you're going to someone like Bernard.
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BernardC wrote:
I do know of one - Bernard CHESNEAU in Val d'Isere. Apparently he has some specialised equipment and is recomended - although I have heard him described as 'being in and out of touch with reality' ... Toofy Grin


He's very, umm, 'enthusiastic'... Smile
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rob@rar, .... a job awaits you immediately if not sooner in the Diplomatic corps .... Toofy Grin
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bh1, ...oh no you cant.
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BernardC wrote:
rob@rar, .... a job awaits you immediately if not sooner in the Diplomatic corps .... Toofy Grin

I have my Diplomatic Passport awaiting should the call come...

Bernie was very interesting to listen to, and he certainly seems to have a good track record being the French team boot man for some time, but he did seem very much committed to a particular approach using a particular brand of footbed. I passed on the opportunity to avail myself of his services.
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rob@rar, Puzzled rolling eyes
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Canting was all the rage 5 years ago.

But appears to have largely died out. SWMBO had 1.5 deg cants under her previous bindings - but know she's told she needs none. Why? I dunno. This is the same ski shop that we've used for maybe 15 years - one that CEM knows very well....
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IMO, Bernhard Chesneau is the only guy in Europe practising this to a consistant standard. His work has been well documented, both failures and sucsesses. I have many clients whom with myself and the work of Bernard, are very happy. However, this is a very sensitive subject and should be approached with caution and not before properly fitted boots and footbeds have been purchased.
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