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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Spyderman, those skis are a total bag of s**t but seeing as you're a fellow snowhead I wouldn't want you to be out of pocket so I'll give you what you paid for them plus the postage. Let me know how you want paying.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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you are going to have so much fun on those!!!
I thought I read a review of those by Bob Peters on Epic Ski but I can't find it.
If you get a chance you may want to PM him over there and see what he has to say. He is a stockli man!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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spyderjon, I've mounted the Look Pivot binding that I've got, as the skis were already drilled for Look, but the previous guys feet were obviously bigger than mine. It now means the boot centre mark is about 7mm forward of the mark on the ski. Is this going to make a difference, that I will feel? I'm a bit loath to re-drill them, even though I can as I have the right Jig.
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Spyderman, Shouldn't make a difference really as the mark on the ski is in a pretty arbitary 'mr. average' location - & it might even help, depending on your own personal fore/aft balance poit. In theory it will help turn initiation without being so far forward to cause the tails to wash out.
What you can do is compare the binding location on the Stockli's to your other skis, the binding locations on which you are obviously happy with. You do this by measuring the distance the boot mark is in front of the Centre of the Running Surface of the skis. This is how folks who've been Campbell Balanced set-up their binding locatios as whilst different skis vary in size/shape etc this dimension remains constant as it's the user's own personal fore/aft balance point. Sometimes the boot mark is a bit fiddly to see so I tend to use the front edge of the boot's toe lug as a reference point.
To measure the CRS first lock the brakes back & then stand the ski on their tails, base to base. Compress the camber so the the skis are flat against each other & the then mark a point on side/edge of the skis were the two upturned tips meet. Turn the skis though 180 & repeat by marking were the upturned tails meet. Then measure between the tip & tails marks & add an additonal mark on the ski exactly half way between the two points. This is the CRS & from this mark the distance to either the boot mark or the front edge of the boot's toe lug can be measured & compared.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Sun 10-06-07 10:21; edited 1 time in total
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Spyderman, I'll be interested to hear from you want the factory edge angle set-up is as I presume they've still got the factory tune?
Here's what Stockli say: "Most Stöckli skis have a factory base bevel of appr. 1.25 ... 1.4° and a side bevel of appr. 1.4°. For the World Cup skis we use a bevel of 0.5° (Base) and 2 or 3 ° Side, most common is 3°."
However all of the new Stockli's I've prepped have had a 1,3 tune which is what I'd recommend you put on yours.
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spyderjon, Thanks, I'll let you know after Tuesday, when I've given them a go for the day at Megamum's MK bash. The skis were put through a light stone grind, and were side edged at 89 deg. I saw it being done there were no sparks flying, as they were so good to start with. If I'm making any sense. The edges are seriously sharp now and I have polished them with a Rubber.
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Spyderman, A stone grind after just 2 days use - that's pretty aggressive. Presumably the machine put a 1 degree base edge angle on at the same time as the 1 degree side angle.
I'd certainly put at least a 2 degree side edge on them, preferably a 3 (& by hand not machine) or you're kinda wasting that superb Stockli torsional stiffness/edge hold capability.
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Spyderman, I skied a pair of these for a week with a guide in Obergurgl, great offpiste and good carvers on groomed stuff, however on overnight frozen stuff they were inclined to go into terminal judder dumping me on my hip a couple of times, overall a great ski. Have fun 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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He was raving about them - honest!! Then him and Masque swapped and they were both raving about them - talk about boys and their toys 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Megamum, I liked them but I wasn't driving them hard enough . . . I spent the day in the 'back seat' - lack of fitness, too much lard and much too little time on snow to ski or board with any degree of skill or technique . . . but I'd love to try the Stormriders on a big open red.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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brian
brian
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Spyderman, from the glimpse in the vid, looks like you have the blue and red ones (04/05 model) ? I believe the newer ones are a little softer.
I've had a day on their Laser GS in Switzerland, brilliant fun.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I've skied mine for about 5 weeks now over 2 years and they're a great all round ski, grip on the piste is fantastic with no speed limit, smash through the chopped up stuff. The only 2 cons I've found with mine are: 1) they are unforgiving in the bumps and you can get thrown around a lot compared to a softer ski like the rossi B2 but if you're a genuine advanced skier you'll be fine; 2) in powder they work best at pace with gs style turns and don't stop (so get fit), they're a bit skinny and stiff (tip dive) for powder really unless of course you have the old school technique sorted.
I await to be flamed by someone with far more skill than me... 
Enjoy them - I know I have and will continue to do so...
Cheers
BB
PS I've got the same model as yours (red/white/blue 04/05 model) in a 174, for what it's worth I'm 5ft 10 and 81 kilos 12.75 stone and an 8 on the S&R scale.
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bucking bronco,
I also skied the red/white/blue at 174 model, I'm 5ft 8 and 75kg and found them excellent offpiste, but I have been around for a while 
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brian, bucking bronco, Mine are the Red/White/Blue ones, 184cm. I'm a bit taller at 6'0" and 14 stone.
Only had the one day at MK on them so far, but very pleased.
Not too worried about the deep powder performance as I've got the 8800's for that. I wanted them for general on/off piste hooning around.
I can see why people like them so much already though. 
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