 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Peter Ross, IMHO you look in perfect control, finishing your turns quite nicely, and having fun.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Frosty the Snowman, It all sounds good! I think I'll have to get some shots of me in moguls to really have a discussion! 
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Nice controlled fluid skiing, turning where you want to, rather than where the slope dictates. You look like you're enjoying yourself.
Area for improvement, more ankle flex to get your weight more forward over your skis.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Kramer, Thanks, good advice.
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Very brave of you to let this lot (us...) loose on your skiing technique!!
Pretty good actually. If we were being hypercritical I would tell you to pay more attention to not paying so much attention to your hand position (!). The first film shows me that someone has told you to keep your hands in sight and they are too high and therefore too stiff. Maintain a relaxed posture with the hands held at 10 to 2 and moving slightly fore and aft in order to initiate the turn. In the second clip they are not so stiff but may be guilty of returning to too near the hip area.
As Kramer said, not enough ankle flex, which is causing you to ski with your heels instead of the middle of your foot - knee flex is good but more drive from the front of the boot, which in turn will prevent you from snatching the turn, which could be slightly more rounded and with a more progressive arc described. To do this you need to emphasise the up movement at the start of the turn but slow down the compression into the turn - use the skis' natural radii to assist.
Nonetheless, you are enjoying yourself and therefore who cares??! Keep up the good work...
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look out, in the first clip good turns but you looked like you had a line picked and nothing was going to stop you getting it on camera, about 7 seconds in you cut right in front of another skiier and then across a narrowing gap.
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Powderhound, I will work on the ankle flex and boot pressure. In the second clip the run is quite moguled (not apparent on the clip) so I think that's why there is more pressure early in the turn to knock off speed. Am I right to do this?
PhillipStanton, those freeze frames are really good to explain your point, what does (You're also banking to initiate your turns.) mean? thanks
daehwons, fair point, don't want to hit someone, although I'm always looking around me, comes from cycling in traffic everyday where pedestrians, car doors and buses are just waiting to get you.
This is better than a lesson! Thanks all
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I have found consciously standing taller and pushing my bum forwards helps to get a more dynamic, relaxed and neutral position. This means less bending at the waist to plant your poles and helps to get your shins pushing against the front of your boots - it may be worth loosening the top clip if you find them a bit too stiff.
But that's just being picky - the main criticism was I couldn't see your grin!!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Peter Ross, Out of curiosity, prior to posting the pics(!), what would you have said you would like to change in your skiing, and what would that change allow you to do on the hill that you may struggle to do at the moment ?
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You know it makes sense.
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A good way to stop your bum sitting back is to imagine you are clenching a £50 note between your buttocks. If you let go of the note, you lose your £50!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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You are sitting back at the end of the turn and in the second video really on the back of the skis at the end of the turn and skidding out.
I have a similar tendancy and have had several suggestions for mental tips. Try to keep your "Thighs high" this raises your hips over your feet and gets you in a more upright position. your hand position is a little too static and i believe is promoting the lean others talked about. to initiate the turn and get your thighs high reach a bit with your pole to help extend your body upwards slightly.
another way of thinking about this is to as the French say crudely "fornicate instead of Deficate"
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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PhillipStanton, thanks, I'll work on this. I see what banking means now. Again thanks for the freeze frames, great!
david@mediacopy, re what I'd like to improve, I think I want to be more in controlled and fluent on more difficult terrain e.g. moguled runs, steep pistes and I suppose this is down to engaging my edges more to carve as much as possible.
zammo, scottp, slikedges, thanks,
bh1, nice one! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| PhillipStanton wrote: |
| You really want your hips and shoulders parallel to the hill and pointing down it. |
There are definitely different views on that mantra. That's what I've worked fairly hard to ingrain into my skiing, and the week before last the coach was berating me continually to STOP doing that. When I could get myself to a) face along the skis rather than down the hill and b) bank rather than angulate through the turn, the turn completed much more naturally and I went a LOT faster. This was in a race context, but applies to fluid general-purpose skiing too. The "face down the hill" thing is now quite old-fashioned and probably really relevant only for (competition?) bumps skiing. Whether you angulate or not to keep the body upright is essentially speed related. You want the net force (combination of centripetal force and reaction to weight) from the COM to be acting through the skis. The faster you go the more centripetal force so the more you will need to get your COM inside the turn and bank for a given turn radius. Wide turns at higher speed will need more banking and less angulation. Tight turns at slow speed will need more angulation and less banking.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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david@mediacopy, I think I can carve pretty well on nice smooth pistes and get that real locked in railway track feel but I suppose it's modifying my technique to deal with more difficult conditions where as you say I want to knock off speed. My most recent lessons have been one to one sessions so that helped iron out some small things that make a big difference. I think the biggest issue is staying centred on more difficult terrain, I'll be thinking of €50 notes from now on!
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€50 notes certainly concentrate my mind !
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My 2p worth. You sit too far back on your backside and compensate with an unnatural forward lean. Flex at the knees/ankles rather than at the hips in this instance. On both slides the edges are banged in to slow the speed too drastically, the turns should be wider and more fluid on this terrain to give you more all round control. If it were steeper and narrower you would need to keep that kind of technique, ie fast edge sets IMV.
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david@mediacopy, although £50 notes are worth more.
JT, so I am kind of folding at the waist rather than pushing foward at the ankles to get my shins pressing against the front of the boots.
scottp I looked at that Bode stuff before but when your faults are highlighted you pay more attention!
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Peter Ross,
Yes, I would say so. Personally a more upright stance in this case with the knees positioned over the top of your boots would be what I would be aiming at. It may well be that your knees would protrude further in order for you to be balanced on the ball of your feets. This is a stance or posture that your body would have to recocile to have the weight and balance where you need it, but broadly speaking if you have the knees in that area you are on the right lines.
Note: I am not an instructor but I would expect one to put you in that sort of position.
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FAQ
. You've also got your skis pretty consistently the right distance apart!
