 Poster: A snowHead
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Following on from a comment made regarding my daughter by a fellow snowHead last Thursday 
and a school ski trip that could result in winning a ski scholarship - Details here http://www.interski.co.uk/scholarship.htm
What is the best route into ski teaching?
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sun 22-10-06 19:49; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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cannot see the link boredsurfin
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| little tiger wrote: |
| cannot see the link boredsurfin |
Try it now 
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| What is the best route into ski teaching? |
Gap course somewhere? Lots of places do them now, some offering coverage of BASI courses or other routes into teaching such as CSIA qualifications.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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that is cool....
I know at least 2 of our aussie examiners work at Deer valley in Utah in the northern winter... they would be nice to work with(good guys, solid trainers)
and an ex(non working atm in that area)-examiner is at Falls all year round runs race dept...he has staatliche as well as being aussie examiner and did manage a hotel as well while doing all the above... very cool guy...
Only other one I know well has a 13y.o. son but he no longer works in the industry.... very experienced though - worked europe/oz/japan/USA... trainer/ski school management etc
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boredsurfin, If you are near a dry slope you can normally start instructor training at 16, artificial slope instructor, this is the route that I followed and then took my BASI. As rob@rar, wrote a gap course somewhere is the quickest route. ( http://www.basi.org.uk/courses/gap_overv.asp ) The Interski scholarship has been running for a couple of seasons and watching a video of the students the standard of skiing was very high.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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boredsurfin, Diito Dunk, and david@mediacopy, plastic the way to start. I don't think BASI recognise the SSE ASSI, although they do the Scottish one.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Well one fellow snowHead applied to Wengen ski school earlier this year and has been accepted on their pre season course in early December (It wasn't me by the way)
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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boredsurfin - the "best" route very much depends on whether your daughter wants to make a living out of ski instruction or just "get by".
The difficulty is that there are lots of different systems - each of which will allow you to teach in different countries. This is the little I know about it.
In Switzerland you technically don't need any qualifications. If the ski school director likes you he can hire you.
In Canada you can do a Level 1 qualification in a week and this lets you teach snowplough and beginning parallel. It'll get her a job at subsistance wages with a big operator like IntraWest.
(I don't know anything about the ASSI, so will skip that here.)
Then you hit BASI 3 (confusingly, the systems don't have consistent numbering systems), which is broadly equivalent to a Canadian Level 2. This is what she'll get off a GAP course. This will allow her to teach in the UK, Australia and Canada (and some other places), a limited amount in Italy, but not in France.
To teach in France she'll need a BASI 3 and a test technique (new this year - previous years it was a BASI 2) - to gain "staatliche" status - from where she's technically got 3 years (I think) to get the equivalent of her BASI 1. If she teaches with ESF, the 3 year limit is a more, err, relaxed concept.
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Phillip Stanton...
from what I know the aussie ski schools will take anyone - as long as you do their hiring clinic and pass.... no quals needed
the italians had a great story of one of their number heading to Oz... and being forced to do hiring clinic although full cert because no-one in ski school could work out (or would not work out) the levels... he passed with flying colours and now all from his ski school with same quals go straight to top level cert wise (for pay purposes in Oz you get points for levels and for experience).. they no longer need to do hiring clinic they tell me...
this is how we get so many diff certs at home... you are always welcome to turn up and try... (well we had so many diff people build the snowy mountains scheme)
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You know it makes sense.
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
What is the best route into ski teaching? |
If you want to teach in France ski racing is almost essential.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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boredsurfin, I can only agree with the suggestion to start teaching on plastic. Our daughter started this year. The centre effectively ran a personal performance class once a week from May to August and then the training for Club Coach started in September. Now she has to shadow during lessons for at least 20 hours and demonstrate her ability to teach. If that all goes well, she can do the full ASSI course next year and will then have a gap year to do a BASI qualification. After that, who knows?
We reckon that if she doesn't like teaching on plastic we won't have to fund the gap year course.
The standard on the Club Coach course is quite variable, as is the age range. Some of the poorer skiers have improved considerably over the summer, but they will IMHO find it difficult to give a good demonstration. The better skiers have all spent time with local clubs, learning both general skiing techniques and racing on plastic: some of these are also using it as a preliminary to a gap year course.
Conclusions: join a dry slope club to improve technique, take the Club Coach and ASSI courses, and only then the gap year.
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FAQ
then if you feel so inclined you train for level 1 exams...
