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Learning to Telemark.

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I've been thinking about it for a while now. Anyone got any good recommendations for a good ski school etc?
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Kramer, Tele-masters (WWW.tele-masters.co.uk) do lessons at the snowdomes. Elsewhere the Telemarkskico will do packages. Most ski schools in France/Italy (don't know about Austria,Switz) have telemark instructors. Even the SnowsportEngland do a package !

Or you can do what I did - buy the kit and get on with it ! All you need are some boots, bindings and a old pair of alpine skis....

Www.telemarktips.com is a useful website. Two books worth buying are Paul Parkers' one (can remember the name - but search on Paul Parker and telemark and you'll soon find it) and 'Keith and Allens 101 Telemark Tips'.

Two questions - 1) What's you shoe size and 2) Where do you live ?
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Its easy Smile I just bought the kit and went for it. One thing is just because your heels are free doesn't stop you doing parallel turns. I often end up doing parallels when things get steep, icy or there are bumps. I'm getting better with practice though and am doing teles on steeper stuff. Still can't ski as fast doing teles as doing parallels on the same kit and my linking of turns in harder conditions isn't as smooth as I would like yet. I second the recomendations for Paul Parkers 'Free-Heel Skiing: Telemark and Parallel Techniques for All Conditions (Mountaineers Outdoor Expert Series) ' and Allen and Mike's Really Cool Telemark Tips they are both great books.

I'm afraid I'm not a great one for lessons, had some coaching from the club coach at HNSC and I've followed this lot http://www.g2outdoor.co.uk/ down the West Wall at Cairngorm and they seemed pretty good, but it wasn't me who was having lessons with them.
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I just hired the skis and gave it a bash. At first had no idea what I was doing but as you get the hang of the balance it starts to feel alright.
Most ski schools should offer telemark lessons anyway, probably a case of asking around.
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Agree all the above recommendations - Telemasters lessons at MK really help, they run a weekend festival at the end of the summer too plus various European courses. The most difficult thing I found was using the "wrong" rear ski to edge out of a turn as alpine dominance made me keep transferring onto my downhill forward ski.
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The Telemasters thing sounds like a good idea.
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Alistair Pink's your man - when I met him at Tamworth he was telemarking. It struck me that I'd need a much larger, flatter, space to try it, but he made it look rather easy.
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he made it look rather easy
Yeah but Ski Sunday makes all skiing look easy Laughing
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maggi, was Alistair on Ski Sunday, too!?
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i'll toss in my $00.02 with a hearty.......take a few lessons. for the past few years i jumped on tele gear at the end of the ski season and "gave it a go" for a few hours. my initial reaction was a sense of "i don't get the attraction".

i have a friend who is a PSIA level III (full cert in USA) in nordic (tele) and asked him for a little help. once i was given a few tips it suddenly became much easier and hence, great fun.

it isn't easy to do well and it is tough to make the leap to difficult terrain or to less than ideal snow conditions.

the biggest reason that i plan to start to tele more often is that it is clear it has improved my alpine skiing. IMHO the bane of every skier is "levering" their alpine boots. in part it is a vestigial movement from technique espoused years ago.

one obviously cannot lever a tele boot. the day after i tele'ed i was skiing in really lousy snow conditions and i felt far more able to stand on the middle of my skis and the result was far more accurate steering of my skis.

i'm hooked on tele. the damn gear (kit in your parlance) is so doggone expensive
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Yeah - Its great fun.

I hired some kit at Braemar Mountain Sports about 4 yrs ago and got on fine...... until I realised I was leading with the wrong ski Sad I was just doing a sort of free heel parallel. Doing a proper Tele proved a bit more difficult. Smile

But I persisted and its getting easier all the time although I still spend at least half my time skiing alpine since that uses much less energy.

My main mistake which I'm gradually overcoming is putting too much weight on the leading ski. You really have to weight that back ski, its improves control and eases quad strain. You may find the transition easier if you can ski with your feet together and your weight evenly balanced.

The downside of tele is that I carn't ski as fast and big jumps and 360s are much harder, and the gear is really expensive.

However after years in the alpine widerness I have 'found' myself again and relaunced my skiing enjoyment Very Happy
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big jumps and 360's hmmmmmmm.....indeed........i see

yea that was the downside for me. just can't huck those cliffs like i can on alpine gear.
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I've only just seen this thread - I don't normally look at the Bend ze Knees forum.
Thanks hyweljenkins and maggi for your kind words about my telemarking ability Embarassed - really boosted my ego, but bear in mind it was only an indoor slope - I would only rate myself as low intermediate standard Toofy Grin .
Kramer, Telemasters sounds good, I've not yet had a chance to go on any of their courses at MK or Castleford. Some years back I went on a weekend course at Aviemore, which was good. I believe the company I went with has changed name or ceased operations, but a web search has shown that it is still possible to go on courses there or in Europe with the Telemark Ski company.
Hope the above helps. Very Happy
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You know it makes sense.
For anyone interested provisional dates for the Big Fridge mini tele festivals are 9/10 September at MK, 23/4 September at Cas. Run by telemaster with guest coaches.

A good laugh, all standards including beginners welcome and a chance to get shown up by the marines who do it for a living.
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fatbob,

We have telemarker in our crew... we can't catch him .. The only chance we have is to adopt those big turns so he had better watch out next season...hopefully. Mind you, it doesn't appear to be a game for dodgy knees
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Telemarking.... it's a beautiful thing! And there's nothing like the sensation of a perfectly carved teleturn!

If you are already a strong alpine skiier, there's only 2 things you need to know about tele'ing:

1.) (This ones the big secret). It's easier, much easier, than it looks.
2.) Big toe, little toe. In every turn concentrate on feeling the weight of your front foot on the big toe, and your back foot on the little toe. When I learnt to tele 'big toe little toe' was my mantra. My one and only tele lesson was from two random kiwi's. The lesson lasted the length of the chairlift at Treble Cone (NZ) and all it consisted of was 'Big toe, little toe. Just remember the big toe, little toe and you'll be fine dude!'
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Telemarking is great and I do agree its much easier technically then it looks but it is much more physically demanding then regular sking. This is good because if your at an easier resort with friends you can get alot out of it.

First tip NO POLES FOR YOU!!!

Seriously ride without poles for the first day. Important is to find the ballance on the tellies and to not cheat using the poles for ballance. Poles are for rythem not ballance. It will feel strange and you will most likely take a few falls but it will help ALOT.

Tex
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Kramer the instructor I use in Les Gets, a guy called Joe Beer, is one of the BASI telemark trainers. A good guy to try if you want private lessons - www.alpinelearningcurves.co.uk
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TexMurphy,

I agree with the no poles - tried it by default last season when I snapped one on the daylodge run last year. Another tip I was given last season was to shorten my poles compared to when I use them for downhill and this seemed to help aswell.

Dave
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