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Hi,
we have an apartment in Corvara for a few weeks mid Jan to early Feb.
We normally do day trips but I thought it might be fun to do a 2 day trip by ski and overnight somewhere with the aim of a change of scenery and not having to rush back, kind of a mini ski safari. I'm looking for suggestions but have been thinking of
world war 1 route with an overnight nr Alleghe (skied all the pistes but never done the circuit)
ski over to Alpi di Suis/Ortisei (again skied the area several times)
or maybe an area we've not been to before... so
ski over to Pozza di Fassa (never skied that area beyond the bottom of Buffaure)
bus/ski/train over to 3 Zinnen, but maybe that's a 2 nighter, or it's better to drive there and spend a night
My wife is a good skier and I'm a competent intermediate (no good when it's more than one of steep/icy/bumpy  ). We're happy to take everything for an overnight stay in two rucksacks as we're used to walking for a couple of days and stopping in a pub.
I'd welcome any suggestions or experience people may have of specific rifugios. We're not game for a dormitory!
Cheers,
R
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Ski over to cortina, do a lap of pistes them back to refugio averau at cinque torre, bus over to pescul next day, ski alleghe and zoldo, then taxi to malga ciepela and ski back to corvara
Or the same in reverse. So basically the ww1 tour with a night in averau.
Lagazuoi also has private rooms but might be a bit too close to home
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Iskiing over in Val di fassa is very pleasant. I might be tempted to go up to San Pellegrino which I've not seen, though the Civetta area also looks excellent.
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Another vote for Cortina. Just been there for a week and it's totally different to Alta Badia.
Most spectacular.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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1. Val di Fassa: ski over to Pozza, then there are little road-trains to Pera to get the chair up into Catinaccio, ski down the nice red to Vigo, buses from Vigo go up to Carezza ski area, not ski buses though?? Not used these as I had a car. Both Catinaccio & Carezza are scenic with the backdrop of the mythical Rosengarten range. There are places to stay on mountain up at Carezza like https://maps.app.goo.gl/pK6DjAfDvSj8birP9 and there's the nice QC Terme spa on the edge of Pozza, but not sure how you would fit that in! 
https://www.fassa.com/it/come-arrivare/autobus-altoadigemobilita
2. Cortina: Corvara-Armentarola-taxibus to Falzarego-Cinque Torri-Cortina Skyline-Tofana-bus across town to Faloria cablecar-Rio Gere-Cristallo. I think the Rifugio Son Forca has rooms...beautiful spot! Return would be same route in reverse, knocking off bits of Cortina you missed the previous day and then Hidden valley run back to Armentarola and Alta Badia
https://rifugiosonforca.it/
3. Drei Zinnen: Ski to Badia-bus to Piculin-ski over Kronplatz to Perca-train to Vierschach-ski through 3 Zinnen (with bus connection) to Padola- stay the night at a hotel in the village- Return is same in reverse
4. Civetta(Alleghe): as you say, you could follow the WW1 route either way (via Armentarola/Cinque Torri or Arabba/Malga Ciapela), when you hit Civetta, you can head across and explore the Zoldo side. Rifugio S'un Paradis is a beautiful chalet that may have rooms https://maps.app.goo.gl/1MeQDWoJGnA8DngG8. If not, this one at Palafavera https://maps.app.goo.gl/aDmvafPtbHKjr76c7
Return would be reverse choosing either the Marmolada descent or Hidden Valley.
I would say do whichever one you haven't visited before. I've visited all these before and Cortina is probably the one I would pick to return to. The Cristallo sector is my favourite, very quiet and stunning mountain backdrop.
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@richb67, last summer I stayed for just 2 nights in Alleghe at the centrally located hotel Alleghe. Their website seems to be down at the moment (actually I think I booked through hotels.com anyway). Edit: it was actually through booking.com.
Alternatively it may be worthwhile seeing if the nearby Garni Esperia (situated above the Bierstube in central Alleghe) has any availability.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Wed 23-10-24 20:47; edited 1 time in total
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@luigi I'd like to try 3 Zinnen but am concerned that getting buses, trains etc all lined up may be pushing it a bit and limit our ski time in the actual resort. We'll probably end up either getting stuck at Kronplatz or rushing back really early  have you done this?
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No, I was staying just south of Cortina, so I drove up to Vierschach and did the 'Giro delle Cime' tour to Padola and back in a day with lunch at Padola. That was easily doable.
https://www.dreizinnen.com/en/the-experience/in-winter/giro-delle-cime.html
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thanks @Alastair Pink, will take a look
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| richb67 wrote: |
@luigi I'd like to try 3 Zinnen but am concerned that getting buses, trains etc all lined up may be pushing it a bit and limit our ski time in the actual resort. We'll probably end up either getting stuck at Kronplatz or rushing back really early have you done this?
re the hotel QC Terme, looks like and not badly priced but not sure it's the kind of place where you arrive with just a rucksack of clothes  we tried to get to Cristallo from Faloria when we were there but the connecting run was closed due to lack of snow, maybe try again this year.
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I know it would be a daytrip and not a 2 day ski safari, but you could always drive over to Cortina, park at Rio Gere https://maps.app.goo.gl/bzP4av3BHpx8WkNS8 and go up and explore the Cristallo sector, the run back down to rio Gere is a blast, my son and I repeated 10 times one morning before lunch at Rio Gere restaurant. It's a really quiet part of Cortina, probably even quieter if the run down from Faloria were closed!! 
In the afternoon, you could do a short drive across to Lake Misurina to the tiny but perfectly formed Col de Varda ski area https://maps.app.goo.gl/yNacf3npBFK5ZKxt8 Just one chair up and a few variants down, but whoever laid them out knew what they were doing, some real blasts and almost deserted the afternoon we went. Impressive views around the frozen lake there too. You can walk out onto it.
Also, to maximise time at 3Zinnen, driving to Vierschach would be a good daytrip option. Long enough to complete the Giro delle Cime to Padola and back in a day. 
Massive parking area next to liftbase there https://maps.app.goo.gl/AVdjP6DnjvnKmYZA8
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@luigi, thanks for the tips
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We did the Great War and stayed overnight at the cool refuge with the outdoor hot tub at Cinque Torre.
Pretty cool sitting in a tub, looking at the five towers, moon and stars.by moonlight in the snow
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@cameronphillips2000, thanks, looks like maybe this place? [url=]https://www.rifugioscoiattoli.it/[/url]
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@richb67, I booked that for this year and it didn't have private rooms as opposed to dorms. Not sure if that's because it's busy or they just don't do them.
The averau place is just up the ridge from it, has private rooms and previous posters have suggested food is better there. No hot tub alas (that is €200 shot also).
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@luigi, I'm staying in scoiattoli this Jan - how easy is it to get across to the cristallo side? I was planning on just staying on the closer side of cortina as we need to get back up to lagazuoi for the next night. Cristallo might be a bit tight to be enjoyable on that timetable. Is it ski bus between the two areas?
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@8611, thanks. I think they have private rooms but I had the same issue as there were non available when I looked earlier today
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| 8611 wrote: |
| @luigi, I'm staying in scoiattoli this Jan - how easy is it to get across to the cristallo side? I was planning on just staying on the closer side of cortina as we need to get back up to lagazuoi for the next night. Cristallo might be a bit tight to be enjoyable on that timetable. Is it ski bus between the two areas? |
Cristallo is easier if you have a car and can drive up to Rio Gere. You can catch the bus across town to the Faloria cablecar and work your way over to Rio Gere that way, but it would be a long way back to Lagazuoi. As you say, too tight to be enjoyable.
I reckon you would be best sticking to the Tofana side, assuming you're using the Cortina Skyline both ways.
There's quite a bit on the Tofana side. From where the Skyline drops you, you work your way over to Pomedes and the Tofana Schuss World Cup run. Then you can head up to Col Druscie to get the cable car up to the high Ra Valles. You can get to the highest skiable point on Tofana on the Bus de Tofana chair. https://maps.app.goo.gl/hhZbtntvJDjxJV1J8
It's 2828m and you can ski a long 1600m vertical in one shot down to the gondola base at 1217m. The route down is mostly blue, but it includes the steep black Forcella Rossa. You would then have to work your way back across to the Skyline. https://maps.app.goo.gl/yGhCponWKCHjgxBK7
Then you have to ski the loop around Cinque Torri. The weak link is the Croda Negra chair, shut too often for my liking. Then they lay on a replacement bus service from Bai de Dones up to Falzarego. The whole of Cinque Torri was closed last year due to wind, so pray for clement weather during your trip! 
What are your dates in Jan? The Womens WC is on in Cortina mid Jan
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@luigi, super thanks. Yes my plan was to stick to that side, skiing looks good and I think I was there on a previous trip years ago and was really scenic. Early Jan so should avoid the ladies. That chair is rickety and old and crosses a ridge from recollection so will keep an eye out but sure its always nice weather in the Dollies.
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| 8611 wrote: |
| @luigi, super thanks. Yes my plan was to stick to that side, skiing looks good and I think I was there on a previous trip years ago and was really scenic. Early Jan so should avoid the ladies. That chair is rickety and old and crosses a ridge from recollection so will keep an eye out but sure its always nice weather in the Dollies. |
It isn't that old, installed in 2008, but only a 2 man. I think the issue is that it catches the wind and the runs either side don't have snowmaking, so can be a bit bare in lean snow years.
They do close the race course some time in advance in order to prepare it, but you can still use the chairs up past it and the alternative runs down.
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