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Help with ski boots - am I overflexing them?

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Hi there-



Looking for some advice on ski boots. I’ve been skiing for about 5 years now, starting out 5-10 days a season living in Europe, and I now moved to the US and ski about 20-30 days a season.

I am 6”4 / 230 Lbs and quite an athletic person, played sports my whole life, and am relatively strong, although aerobic fitness isn’t quite what it once was…

I bought a pair of Technica Mach MVs 120s in 2019 after ~1 year of skiing with custom insert, on the recommendation of a boot-fitter in London (Pro Feet). After about ~1 more year of skiing I felt like I wasn’t getting quite enough support from the boots, and added a booster strap which helped with both comfort and support.

At the time I only skied on-piste blues / reds, but was told by instructors that I would probably pass the Level-1 ski instructor course based on my carving.

My Carv score (though not sure how much I would self-assess as a “Grim Reaper” averages between 140-155. I would self-assess as a Level 8 -10 skiier on the Inside Out guide, better on piste, weaker off piste, especially in bumps; but I do enjoy working on getting better at them.

As I’ve spent more time living in CO, I am noticing on steeper terrain that I am running into issues (Double Blacks and bumps mainly).

I find myself ratcheting up my boots, and had to move the buckles in a spot to allow me to get them tight enough, and this has helped for a while, however I am now noticing another issue which is when I get forward in the boots, I have enough space behind my calf to fit 5 fingers or my entire hand in to be honest… I believe this is leading me to lean back on steeper terrain, limiting my control.

I am (self-diagnosed) slightly low ankle flex, and can only manage about 8-9cm on the wall test on the left foot, and 10-11cm on the right.

I believe these are all symptoms of me over-flexing the boots, but given I have slightly low ankle flex, I am wondering if this is the right conclusion.

When I am at home in the living room (70F) I can get the bottom of buckle 3 to touch the plastic close to buckle 4.

Am I right to conclude I am over-flexing the boot?

I think I can get a bolt can be put in the back to stiffen them up, but I’m not sure about the amount of space at the back of my calf, that sounds like it might need to be foam inserts… which at that point, should I plump for new boots?

Thanks

Ben
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It's possible they're just worn out. Expect plenty of other answers shortly Very Happy
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With all those stats, I'd have thought you should be in at least a 130 flex, maybe 140. You could put zipfits in them to stiffen them up but I think it's just time to move up.

The only thing you say that seems odd is that you notice it most in bumps, I'd expect you to be over powering them whilst carving, especially if you're using a stiff ski.

The most obvious sign of a too soft boot is that it will literally collapse on you momentarilly as you push into it in a high g force situation. I find the highest g force point is the apex of a carved turn. But I'm not carving on lovely soft CO snow so that may be a factor.
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@noremedy21, sounds on a quick read that the boots are just too big? or over-compressed i.e. knackered
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There have been a couple of very long discussions on here about flex. Probably worth reading.

Also seems to me you've moved on a lot as skier since you bought the boot and perhaps a respec is in order.
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You’d probably benefit from a higher flex at your size, at your level and at your total volume.

I presume from your description that Pro Feet gave you the full customisation needed at the time? Probably worth heading to a good boot fitter closer to you for a reassessment. The gap in the cuff for instance, well, I wouldn’t be happy with that if it were my boots.
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16 stone skier...boots bought in 2019....putting a lot of work thru those boots...they are knackered, buy a new pair that suits your current skill and strength level
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Hard to gauge exactly how many days/weeks the OP has skied but yeah it could be they are weakened
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Your boots’ flex is probably too soft, the liners are packed and they have too much volume at least on the calf area.

1. Buy new boots
2. Work on your ankle flex, you’ll see the benefits of stretching as early as in a couple of weeks
3. Leave the spoilers on in your new boots / buy a pair if they don’t come with those.
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