 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm borrowing my partner's skis for a holiday rather than take my own, as hers are more suited to the skiing I'll be doing and she's not coming. They have Tyrolia Sympro SP12 rental bindings, and when I've borrowed them before I had no problem adjusting them to my boots, which I recall involved sliding the front bit forward to match my boot length range. Is there something I need to do to with the rear piece as well? I think there is but can't remember what. I've already adjusted the DIN setting to the same as on my skis. I've also done the AFD gap check.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Fri 8-03-24 13:39; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@J2R, are they an appropriate colour?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@under a new name, they're not actually women's skis, thank goodness!
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@valais2, thanks, I'll take a look. I should have said that the rear piece has a set of letters and numbers on it, with ranges coloured with colours which match the ones for the boot length range on the toe piece. I just can't remember or easily find out what this means. With the boot in the binding, the arrow is over the letter N in KLMN, the red range (matching the 303-318mm range). Given that my BSL is 313mm, this would suggest that this is correct, towards the top of the range. Correct?
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It's hard to say and to make life easy it varies from binding make to make, model to model, and year to year.
From the description it's likely you set the toe to match the BSL, then the heal to match the colour - but often there's some form of forward pressure indicator to correctly set the heal position. For example on my old Rossignol rail binding skis you have numbers for the toe/letters for the heal - but no colours. Instead there's a little indicator window in the side of the heal block and you set it to a random letter/clip a boot in/check if the window shows black or yellow. You then try different different letters up or down aiming to get the indicator window showing 50% black/50% yellow. But the correct version for your bindings could be 'all yellow' or 'no yellow', or it could be a 'button' that pokes out and should be flush with something. You might be able to work backwards by clipping your wife's boots in and looking for anything that changes on the heal block or googling till you find the binding model, then finding adjustment instructions.
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@Mjit, thanks. Pretty sure I've got it now, and done the forward pressure as well. Still not entirely sure what the letters/numbers at the back are about, though. Having slid the toe piece forward to the right BSL range for my boot, my boot clicks nicely into place with no unwanted play at back or front, so any adjustment of the heel piece would mean it wouldn't then fit right. I suspect it's probably that as it is now, it's spot on, but I'm surprised that it would have been right for my wife's as well, as her boot length is much less. I'm going with someone who will be hiring skis so maybe I'll plead with the shop to look it over Sunday morning.
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You're assuming they were properly set for your wife's boots. I got a hire shop to set mine when they were new and it was only when I got new boots I dig into what bindings I had/how to adjust them...and realised they weren't set quite correct for my old boots.
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Some boots don't actually go into the corresponding size indications on binding.
Forward pressure is more important than anything. I'd set the toes 1st, then keep in the corresponding colours at the rear, checking forward pressure to get yourself right. If in doubt get a professional to check it.
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Valais2 link already showed where the indicator is but this pic may also be clearer for you, if the marker is between the lines and middle of boot mark in same place on both skis you should be fine.
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@J2R, ....do check the forward pressure using the indicators in the photo above - it does have to be right for the bindings to avoid pre-release and operate accurately at the DIN settings.
Some bindings (Marker Squire etc) need a very high level of forward pressure and people tend to underestimate it on those and set it lower, then they get nasty pre-release, which can be very dangerous. Simple antidote is to know the binding requirements and set and check and set again if need be.
You mentioned that you set up the skis with the same DIN as your skis but have you done a double check that your DIN is right for you? Forgive me if you are top of this.
Here's a nice Rossignol DIN table with weight and BSL.
https://www.newschoolers.com/photos/view/122185/Rossi-Din-Chart
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Thanks for all the help. It doesn't actually say precisely where the indicating pointer should be within the scribed area, and seems to suggest that anywhere within the area is OK ("should rest within the scribed area"). In my case I have 4 lines showing, which means it's slightly off the centre but well within the range.
@valais2, thanks for the DIN cautions. Yes, definitely needs to be done with care. I've looked at a number of guides, in fact, and the typical figure suggested is 5.5 which is what I have it set at.
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@J2R, ....yes that's fine...we always aim for the mid point but some combinations of heel and toe adjustment give you a little bit less or a little bit more, but as long as it's within the bounds of the marks it's good.
That's great re DINs....
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You know it makes sense.
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@valais2, the DIN setting and others are particularly in my mind at the moment, as one of our original party of 4 for the ski trip has been unable to make it as a result of breaking his tibia skiing a few weeks ago. Binding didn't release.
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