 Poster: A snowHead
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It looks like Zardoz are no more - most probably as it's a flouro product and, like flouro waxes, it can no longer be manufactured. I've emailed them and left voicemails on numerous occasions in the last few months with no reply so I'm pretty sure they've gone.
So if you're a Zardoz fan then contact your usual retailer ( ) and stock up. All I've got left is a dozen pucks, a dozen refills and one Mini Shop Kit.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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But... but... it was so deliciously moreish...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Any racer will have plenty of fluoro wax that they are not allowed to use anymore, make them an offer.
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@spyderjon, ta. Done.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| rjs wrote: |
| Any racer will have plenty of fluoro wax that they are not allowed to use anymore, make them an offer. |
It's not an iron-in wax Rob, it's a wipe-on liquid.
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@spyderjon, I have liquid fluoro race wax. It is designed to be used in a similar way to Zardoz but is available in several temperature ranges, not just universal.
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@spyderjon, Ive looked at my retailers on line shop and dont see Zardoz listed - has it all gone?
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| @spyderjon, Ive looked at my retailers on line shop and dont see Zardoz listed - has it all gone? |
There was some this AM, but not any more......
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@boredsurfin, if you snooze you lose
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| albob wrote: |
| boredsurfin wrote: |
| @spyderjon, Ive looked at my retailers on line shop and dont see Zardoz listed - has it all gone? |
There was some this AM, but not any more...... |
I briefly took it offline as I'd had a rush on them and didn't want to oversell etc plus I wanted to give myself chance to double check my stock - and luckily I had another box of each.
It's now back on my website but as I write this I now only have 11no, pucks, 4no. puck refills and 3no. Mini Shop Kits which will all go quickly so get a wiggle on: https://www.thepisteoffice.com/index.php/com-virtuemart/com-virtuemart-menu-categories/the-piste-office-store/wax-zardoz/results,13-32
The Mini Shop Kit, although initially pricey, is the best value for money as the 113g bottle is equivalent to 7.5 puck/refill size bottles but only costs about 6 times the price. And you can use it to top-up the puck/refill bottles etc when travelling.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@spyderjon, 
Excellent service, arrived today, thanks again.
Last edited by snowHeads are a friendly bunch. on Mon 30-10-23 18:12; edited 1 time in total
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@spyderjon could you please put a 3rd puck in our parcel please?
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@spyderjon, Can you put me a couple of refill packs to one side if you have any left. I'll pick them up next time I'm over. Thanks.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Linds wrote: |
| @spyderjon could you please put a 3rd puck in our parcel please? |
Done
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| brianatab wrote: |
| @spyderjon, Can you put me a couple of refill packs to one side if you have any left. I'll pick them up next time I'm over. Thanks. |
Already had done matey.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Thanks for the heads up, just bought one of your Mini Shop Kits.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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bug, missed it
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Now sold out.
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@spyderjon, One of the Norwegian women racers in today's World Cup Giant Slalom today fell foul of the new fluorinated wax ban and was disqualified:
Norway’s Ragnhild Mowinckel left the finish area of the season-opening women’s World Cup race in tears Saturday after becoming the first skier to be disqualified for a forbidden type of wax on her skis. Mowinckel, a two-time Olympic silver medalist from the 2018 Pyeongchang Games, had finished the first leg in sixth place before her skis failed the mandatory post-run test by FIS officials, who took her out of the competition.
A rule in effect this season forbids the use of fluorinated wax in the pre-race preparation of skis. FIS banned the substance from its competitions after years of debate about the potential harm fluorinated wax can cause to health and the environment.
“We must find out what happened. We are not trying to cheat, because that is the worst thing for me,” Mowinckel told Norwegian broadcaster TV 2.
The decision left Mowinckel’s equipment supplier Head in disbelief.
“The worst case has happened. We have absolutely no explanation,” Head race director Rainer Salzgeber said.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Spyderjon, is there an alternative product you may have heard about being produced?
If not, there's an opportunity for some entrepreneurial type and a chemist.
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Eh? What on earth are you on about, I said 'ALTERNATIVE'.
There must be alternative ways to make a slippery substance other than using fluorinated wax.
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Indeed, sort of missing what I was getting at, an alternative to Zardoz being that's what the thread is about.
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| king key wrote: |
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Indeed, sort of missing what I was getting at, an alternative to Zardoz being that's what the thread is about. |
Well if you're looking for a liquid that could be used perhaps liquid paraffin would help to get the skis moving faster ( be careful not to ingest it or your digestive system will be moving faster too...  )
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I'm no chemist, but with the demise of Zardoz you'd think someone would be producing a liquid that's an environmentally friendly version with more or less the same characteristics. 
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| king key wrote: |
| I'm no chemist, but with the demise of Zardoz you'd think someone would be producing a liquid that's an environmentally friendly version with more or less the same characteristics. |
I'm no chemist either, but I rather suspect that if anyone had found a suitable alternative this thread would have been about Zardoz's new formulation or competitor.
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You know it makes sense.
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That occurred to me but maybe they just haven't found the ideal substitute yet. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yes, but you have to give it to Spyderjon, he truely did a great job turning his toxic waste into money.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@spyderjon,
Excellent service, arrived today, thanks again.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@boredsurfin, indeed. Thank you spyderjon.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Given that "The process of waxing skis with fluorinated waxes is extremely harmful to the person applying the wax" I think I'm glad I missed this offer.
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@ecureuil, that is with reference to ski technicians who are regularly applying hot fluorinated wax to skis where the high temperature means that vapour from the hot wax could potentially be inhaled. The Zardoz is a room temperature liquid.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Alastair Pink, agree ski techs applying hot wax multiple times will have a much greater exposure. But absorbing PFAS in liquids through skin contact is just as bad for you. So if this product does contain PFAS (which I am not entirely sure about, though it seems likely) it is probably best to use something like nitrile gloves when applying it.
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@ecureuil, You unscrew the top and apply it from a puck, which is hard on the outside. If you're paying attention, it never comes into contact with your skin, but if you were concerned (or it's a bit cold out), you can leave your ski gloves on. That said, probably best not to lick it.
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@Scarlet, Keep it well away from ski gloves.......I got Zardoz on my Oakley Prizm lenses from my ski glove, presumably got on there from when I was carrying the skis, smeared the lens when I was trying to adjust the face fit etc, and wouldn't come off just smeared worse - had to buy a replacement, expensive error! 
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@Markymark29, probably best not to do that then! FWIW, I haven't used Zardoz for a while, but when I have, it's always been to combat slushy afternoon slop, and is therefore applied during a break and skied immediately. It's gone by the end of the day, which I suppose is part of the problem 
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@Scarlet, Ha yes, my fault entirely! 
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I’ve got about a third of a block of F4 still, let’s start the bidding at 5 beers.
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