 Poster: A snowHead
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
| vera16 wrote: |
| I’m so worried about getting a bad knee injury. Am I being overly cautious? Can I mitigate the injury risk somehow? Any other thoughts on how to proceed. |
Worrying doesn’t help. But mitigation would. 
1) set the DIN low (choose “type I” on the hire sheet).
2) take a couple more lessons and learn to ski with correct technique. (Don’t lean back!)
3) Get your own boot with the help of good boot fitters. A well fitted boot will control the skis better, also activate the binding release mechanism promptly.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Tue 20-02-24 17:27; edited 1 time in total
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
| vera16 wrote: |
| Any other thoughts on how to proceed. |
Step On bindings for your snowboard....problem solved (said as a 48 year old, packing a few extra pounds, with a dodgy ankle who found it a pain bending down all the time for bindings). Absolute game changer.
I can't help with the skiing.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
Loads of people move over. Trust your instinct. And enjoy the change. I like you went skis to board (30 years ago). Had to have a ski earlier this month (to exit a valley) and NOOOOOOOO way! Board all the way for me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
well, i am glad i didnt learn to ski, otherwise i would have the same question in my mind for years after years and finally i had both boards and skis and definitely i had to sleep alone on the cough (my wife is always angry because i change board and boots and my mind every couple of years)
Well, make yoga, buy the Nidecker Bindings and keep snowboarding.
I am also 48 and still have the old rachet bindings
As long as i can see my feet i will keep them
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
@turms2, you are a wise sensei! I too am your age and have old knees and old bindings. Yet would not change from a snowboard 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| wiigman wrote: |
| @turms2, you are a wise sensei! I too am your age and have old knees and old bindings. Yet would not change from a snowboard |
The Nidecker bindings look beltingly good as a "proper" binding that's also a Step In. Expensive but I'd have been really tempted to get them over my Step Ons (particularly if Burton boots didn't fit me as well as they do).
Loads of options now to keep you moving on boards.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
| abc wrote: |
| vera16 wrote: |
| I’m so worried about getting a bad knee injury. Am I being overly cautious? Can I mitigate the injury risk somehow? Any other thoughts on how to proceed. |
Worrying doesn’t help. But mitigation would.
1) set the DIN low (choose “type I” on the hire sheet).
2) take a couple more lessons and learn to ski with correct technique. (Don’t lean back!)
3) Get your own boot with the help of good boot fitters. A well fitted boot will control the skis better, also activate the binding release mechanism promptly. |
4) Build up the muscles around the knees with low impact stuff: cycling (uphill), spin bikes, squats, the "imaginary chair" exercise. I particularly like standing up/sitting on a kitchen chair smoothly on one leg (alternate left and right) because it works on your balance as well.
5) If necessary, get the gondola down to avoid the last heavy run down to the resort littered with skiers and boarders who are too tired to do that run safely.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
@vera16, I think you're being overly cautious. I went to the board 8 years ago but have since returned to skiing as well.
I actually don't get the knee thing going to skis. I use mojos when skiing and so find boarding tougher on the knees and definitely the thighs too. If I stopped falling over when boarding it might help though!
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
Don’t give up snowboarding.
I’m 47 and still giving the kids a run for their money.
Google
Nidecker supermatic bindings
Burton step in
Crew step in.
I’m using the Nidecker.
No sitting down to strap in.
Straight off the lift and go.
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
Got a few mates who moved back to skis after a couple of decades boarding.
Same rationale as yourself, bit older and was getting wearing with all that lying around on the snow.
Some of them needed a few lessons to get back into it............and one just couldnt get back into skiing so went back - again - to boarding !!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Gosh thanks for all the feedback! Those Nidecker bindings look so good I was hesitant to believe the hype. I had some Flows back in the day but soon ended up swapping for regular strap ins.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
| GreenDay wrote: |
Got a few mates who moved back to skis after a couple of decades boarding.
Same rationale as yourself, bit older and was getting wearing with all that lying around on the snow.
Some of them needed a few lessons to get back into it............and one just couldnt get back into skiing so went back - again - to boarding !! |
Lessons for sure. Skis are so much more technical and it is reassuring and necessary to have someone constantly correct your form i.e. lean forward!!! I stacked it into the hill twice today and was immediately told why. Invaluable. In the plus side I am used to falling over so wasn’t overly phased  .
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
| tsgsh wrote: |
| abc wrote: |
| vera16 wrote: |
| I’m so worried about getting a bad knee injury. Am I being overly cautious? Can I mitigate the injury risk somehow? Any other thoughts on how to proceed. |
Worrying doesn’t help. But mitigation would.
1) set the DIN low (choose “type I” on the hire sheet).
2) take a couple more lessons and learn to ski with correct technique. (Don’t lean back!)
3) Get your own boot with the help of good boot fitters. A well fitted boot will control the skis better, also activate the binding release mechanism promptly. |
4) Build up the muscles around the knees with low impact stuff: cycling (uphill), spin bikes, squats, the "imaginary chair" exercise. I particularly like standing up/sitting on a kitchen chair smoothly on one leg (alternate left and right) because it works on your balance as well.
5) If necessary, get the gondola down to avoid the last heavy run down to the resort littered with skiers and boarders who are too tired to do that run safely. |
Great advice thanks.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
I think you are being over cautious tbh - unless your knees are dodgy [/quote]
They are not but I had a meniscus repair which took a long time to recover from so I value my functional knees .
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
Apologies for clearly having no idea how to format these replies.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
I think you are being over cautious tbh - unless your knees are dodgy [/quote]
They are not but I had a meniscus repair which took a long time to recover from so I value my functional knees .
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
| vera16 wrote: |
| Gosh thanks for all the feedback! Those Nidecker bindings look so good I was hesitant to believe the hype. I had some Flows back in the day but soon ended up swapping for regular strap ins. |
The current breed of Step In bindings are different level. My Burton ones are just nuts. The feel like they've got straps. They work in powder or on piste. They genuinely live up to the hype for me.
The only negative I've heard on the Nidecker ones are they're a bit heavier than normal bindings but that's in reviews rather than people who are actually riding them.
There's definitely options to keep you boarding
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
Though what's the problem with doing both? Ski when the snow is hard, board when it's soft. It's not a betrayal.......
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
The Nidecker are slightly heavier but only when carrying the board. They don’t feel heavy when riding.
They don’t feel like the old flow bindings, once stepped in they feel just like regular bindings.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
An advanced snowboarder friend of mine has a 6 year old learning to ski (just on a couple of holidays a year, though already getting very good). Can no longer keep up with said child when it wants to go fast (I think a tad of Proud Parent Syndrome in those claims so far, but I can see the point), so is having to try and resurrect their skiing skills.
I think it's a great thing to have abilities both forward-facing and sideways; you can pick and choose.
My knees struggle badly with boarding; skiing is pretty good unless on a strong carve. I've seen knee and leg bone injuries on both boards and skis: it's a hazard of the game.
Go on: you know you want to
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
@wiigman, As I said, I suspect PPS.
But give offspring a few years...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
@Grizzler, yes, quite right you said it re PPS, but still made me laugh. My midlife crisis makes me think I'd be streets ahead until they were at least... 12!
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
| Origen wrote: |
| Though what's the problem with doing both? Ski when the snow is hard, board when it's soft. It's not a betrayal....... |
Do you have to change part way down a long run? 
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
@tsgsh, isn't that what splitboards are for 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
@tsgsh,
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
I find the knee thing odd. Myself and the boys are all in our late 40s and early 50s (blimey still can't believe I'm 52 soon). We all board but one used to ski plus we had 3 other skiers who really couldn't continue past early 40s as the pains in the knees was to much for them. The ex skier also had problems with his knees while skiing but not so boarding. I always have knee pads since I started but still have my ratchet bindings ( 3 pairs actually) and wouldn't be changing them for anything else.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
This may be overlapping with the need to have some sport-specific exercises for the particular muscles you use when boarding. I used to be very sceptical of personal gym trainers, but I’ve had a lot of help from them recently. Whilst I was fit, it turned out that I wasn’t really working on the right muscles for skiing and Alpine hiking, and was finding both increasingly difficult. After talking to my osteopath I got a set of gym sessions from a PT and he tailored my exercises to the muscles I need to strengthen for skiing, hiking uphill and better lower back mobility. It’s worked, and I’m much better now in terms of the demands of a ski or hiking holiday. Basically, just because you’re relatively fit and exercise regularly, it doesn’t guarantee you have the right muscle development for a particular sport, and as you get older, this can become more of an issue.
I don’t say this is the root cause of your problems, and that ski/board lessons aren’t useful in themselves. But a short PT programme is perhaps something worth thinking about. I found that after about five or so one-hour PT sessions at fortnightly intervals, I had the repertoire of exercises I needed to carry on without much more 1:1 training. I go back for a couple of refresher sessions ahead of any trip.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
I think what LaForet said is completely right; being fit and being ski (or any other specific sport) fit are potentially different things.
Some very ski specific exercise to build up the supportive muscles around the knees is likely to be helpful whether you continue on skis or revert to boarding (or do a bit of both).
I do a few of these …
Specific Ski Knee Exercises
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
They look like a good set, I might bookmark those! If you have kids though, I warn you that if you do the crab walk with a squat, it looks ridiculous and they will laugh at you.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
Learning to strap in standing up makes a huge difference. I’m mid 50’s ride a lot and never have back issues despite being tall. Just gotta lose the gut and do some stretches.
I also ride fruit boots on a couple of my boards and they are super easy to lock in, although not the reason I use them. Some fruit boots will work for skiing too if you use touring bindings. I’ve skied my phantoms a few times. Felt dirty doing it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
@Gainz, ski touring boots, used for snowboarding - they work great
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
