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The Economics of skiing in America

 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
Article in the Economist
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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
I think it's already been covered twice.

TLDR : Plan ahead and it can be pretty cheap. Expect everything to be like Europe and they'll happily reem you up the backside.
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
TLDR: Pricing design to make you commit early to a single provider. Ski more than 10 days with that provider and able to commit early? Pricing model works for you. Otherwise it doesn’t.

Consolidation of providers fuels success of this pricing model but also creates capacity issues at popular destinations.

Biggest winners? Ski bums and Vail shareholders
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Flet©h wrote:
TLDR: Pricing design to make you commit early to a single provider. Ski more than 10 days with that provider and able to commit early? Pricing model works for you. Otherwise it doesn’t.

Consolidation of providers fuels success of this pricing model but also creates capacity issues at popular destinations.

Biggest winners? Ski bums and Vail shareholders


And people who look beyond Epic, Ikon et al destinations
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 Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
The article is cr*p.

But the broad thrust is right.

The US has shifted into "subscription skiing".

Coming to Europe and Asia next.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
I think it's already been covered twice.

Yep. The article is kind of old. But, this link gets around the pay wall. So if you haven’t read the article earlier, you can read it now.

Mike Pow wrote:
Flet©h wrote:
TLDR: Pricing design to make you commit early to a single provider. Ski more than 10 days with that provider and able to commit early? Pricing model works for you. Otherwise it doesn’t.

Consolidation of providers fuels success of this pricing model but also creates capacity issues at popular destinations.

Biggest winners? Ski bums and Vail shareholders


And people who look beyond Epic, Ikon et al destinations

Quite. As the “popular” destinations got busier, the “unpopular” resorts stay quiet. But that’s always been the case, even before the consolidation.

Just did a few days of skiing in Vermont last week, all in “unpopular” mountains. Cheap and quiet, full of untouched fresh snow. Ticket price per day ranges from $15 to $52. The last one only because I forgot to buy the ticket online the night before, it should have been $42.


Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Tue 26-03-24 14:39; edited 2 times in total
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 Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
In Wyoming, we have four decent-size mountains that are in National-Forests, skied mostly by locals, and rarely is there 100 people on the mountain. There is tons of summer-tourism, leaving cheap empty local hotels all but empty. $60 is about average for lift-tickets, and motels on Agoda.
https://freeskier.com/stories/wide-open-spaces-wyomings-small-ski-areas-reveal-skiing-in-its-purest-form
The one they skipped, White Pine, is the best, in my opinion, and frankly, I would rather ski there than the big-three.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
abc wrote:
Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
I think it's already been covered twice.

Yep. The article is kind of old. But, this link gets around the pay wall. So if you haven’t read the article earlier, you can read it now.

Mike Pow wrote:
Flet©h wrote:
TLDR: Pricing design to make you commit early to a single provider. Ski more than 10 days with that provider and able to commit early? Pricing model works for you. Otherwise it doesn’t.

Consolidation of providers fuels success of this pricing model but also creates capacity issues at popular destinations.

Biggest winners? Ski bums and Vail shareholders


And people who look beyond Epic, Ikon et al destinations

Quite. As the “popular” destinations got busier, the “unpopular” resorts stay quiet. But that’s always been the case, even before the consolidation.

Just did a few days of skiing in all the “unpopular” mountains in Vermont last week. Cheap and quiet, full of untouched fresh snow. Ticket price per day ranges from $15 to $52. The last one only because I forgot to buy the ticket online the night before, it should have been $42.


Well played

All about timing and imagination
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GinaMae wrote:
In Wyoming, we have four decent-size mountains that are in National-Forests, skied mostly by locals, and rarely is there 100 people on the mountain. There is tons of summer-tourism, leaving cheap empty local hotels all but empty. $60 is about average for lift-tickets, and motels on Agoda.
https://freeskier.com/stories/wide-open-spaces-wyomings-small-ski-areas-reveal-skiing-in-its-purest-form
The one they skipped, White Pine, is the best, in my opinion, and frankly, I would rather ski there than the big-three.


I’ve only skied at White Pine in Wyoming

Loved it

And it was deserted
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