 Poster: A snowHead
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French Alpine resorts have seen excellent visitor numbers as winter tourists escape the doom and gloom of low lying mountain ranges. The downsides are traffic jams, rammed ski slopes and queues both for lifts and mountain restaurants.
In the high altitude domains of the Savoie and Haute-Savoie. Occupation level were 84%, up 11% on last season for the Christmas break. Figures were also good for the six week February holidays with overall occupation of 82.8%; an increase of 3.5% compared to last year. A similar situation in the Southern Alps with occupatation levels at 72%, +2% compared to last winter. It is a local market, 85% of skiers are French.
https://pistehors.com/U3xnW44B1g7SdbHcDukw/bumper-season-for-french-alpine-resorts
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 20-03-24 12:01; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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That picture is like a vision of Hell.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@davidof, yeah, that comes as no surprise, Chamonix has felt unusually busy all season.
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@Origen, Agreed. I'd head for the airport 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Origen, Breugelesque
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Horrific
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Thank you for the article @davidof, Just one question - does this mean the occupation level went from 72% to 84% or from 75% to 83%, a percentage of a percentage?
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Not so in the high altitude domains of the Savoie and Haute-Savoie. Occupation level were 84%, up 11% on last season for the Christmas break.
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TBH I have seen occupancy levels of over 100% published for Les Arcs over New Year in the past.
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@Origen, Thats AI for you...
The 85% local ratio is an interesting metric - traditionally the local nationality visitors spend significantly less while in resort than foreign visitors.
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Except perhaps the Dutch who notoriously drive down with cars full of groceries.
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More Bosch than Breughel, with his wholesome peasants, @davidof
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| johnE wrote: |
Thank you for the article @davidof, Just one question - does this mean the occupation level went from 72% to 84% or from 75% to 83%, a percentage of a percentage?
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Good point,
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It’s surprising as the French court of audit recently published a big report on the impact of climate change on the ski resorts. It said (among many other things) a big concern for the future is that ordinary French folk are being pushed out of their own ski resorts by rising costs that only wealthy foreigners can afford.
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I thought St Gervais was just getting more popular as I have never seen the place so busy but it seems that it is widespread across all the alps.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Origen, I was thinking of The Massacare of the Innocents but perhaps Bosch' more fantastical style suits the illustration better?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| abricotine wrote: |
| It’s surprising as the French court of audit recently published a big report on the impact of climate change on the ski resorts. It said (among many other things) a big concern for the future is that ordinary French folk are being pushed out of their own ski resorts by rising costs that only wealthy foreigners can afford. |
Very likely so.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Origen wrote: |
| That picture is like a vision of Hell. |
Those, I think, are lifts out of Plagne Bellcote? Those lifts always seem rammed even in quiet weeks as main routes up and out
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| @Origen, Thats AI for you... |
It doesn't look that different to the situation in La Plagne this week 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| @Origen, Thats AI for you... |
It doesn't look that different to the situation in La Plagne this week |
could be the queue for the gondola and colossus
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| Origen wrote: |
| That picture is like a vision of Hell. |
That is Colosses out of Plagne Bellecote. It does get very busy but throughput is pretty good also. That picture shows it at it's peak IME (Christmas and one time at HT).
We were out Christmas week and first couple of days were OK and then it definitely got very busy but not a vision of hell.
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TBH that picture looks like AI, perhaps based on something real and specific like Colosses out of Plagne Bellecote.
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The vision of Hell I had at Christmas was trying to get to Dover port when the tunnel staff had a wildcat strike. I am normally quite tolerant of strikers/protestors but that was a bastard thing to do IMO.
Also seeing the traffic going into resorts for new year week when we were driving out at 5.30/6ish.
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@Layne, @davidof, @Boris, @nbt,
That picture cannot be La Plagne Bellecote - there is no car park next to the piste at any point in that area.
I think @nbt is right its an AI picture, but perhaps based on another area or maybe a photo shop of several areas stitched together?
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Apologies, I was talking about the picture in the article davidof linked to.
On my other machine the browser didn't show the picture in the OP.
I've no idea where that came from. @davidof, where did that come from?
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Thé picture reminded me of the famous samivel picture of the ski lift where the queue for the lift started at the very top. No one looked even slightly perturbed about it.
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| Layne wrote: |
Apologies, I was talking about the picture in the article davidof linked to.
On my other machine the browser didn't show the picture in the OP.
I've no idea where that came from. @davidof, where did that come from? |
The picture in the article is la Plagne
The illustration above looks more like American lift queues on a powder day, it does have something of a Kate Middleton vibe to it though.
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Report chimes with predictions of recent decades.
High stations = good
Low stations = bad
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Makes complete sense. Marginal snow-climate resorts suffer, especially since January this winter, whilst the likes of Les Gets and Megeve these last two winters have seen many weeks of dire piste conditions. Post-lockdowns people from across Europe are maximising their holidays, skiers are pouring into the Tarentaise instead. Must be fantastic news if you own a business or a freehold in Courchevel, Val I’sere or Val Thorens.
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