 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi,
Got new Mach 1 130s. They ski great (stellar great, that is!) but I have some shin discomfort and could for this and other reasons get away with a slightly softer initial flex..
What would be the best way(s) to achieve that?
Booster strap is installed.
Thanks!
edit: Shin issue a little bigger than I thought. in hindsight, the issue is uneven pressure distribution along the shin. It is not mega bad, but a lot like only the top half or third is bearing pressure. plus a localised spot near the top of the tongue. When I put my bare legs in the shells, it is apparent that matching my shin curvature is big ask from the cuff. I ski shin pain free in Zero Gs though. There, the lower shin is bearing more pressure and the pressure decreases upwards. the Mach1 tongue seems too softly padded to me.
The trouble is, keep trying and risk injury? Or try a different liner? Hawx Platinum liners feel good on the shin in the shop. I ski intuition Pro Tours in AT boots. Sadly, these are too high volume for the Mach1 shells.
Any hints appreciated.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@danbre2022, the tongue on the 130 is velcro, you could try moving it up/down on the velcro mounting which will alter the instep fit and the transition angle that the tongue hits the leg at, beyond that you could try a different velcro tongue (atomic make 3 thicknesses for volume adjustment) or recontouring the padding of the existing tongue
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great hint, will check out the atomic tongues.
which options do I have for softening the boot?
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@danbre2022, you can try taking ONE of the two upper bolts from the T drive out, it may give you a little, but the only way to do it properly (and it is permanent) is to take the cuff off the boot, cut some material from the side cuts, and the lower strap of the cuff and then rebuild the boot, this is very much a don't try this at home, any cuts need to be smooth with no overcut unless you want the shell to potentially split
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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the way I read it, shin bang can be caused bei either or both these:
-backseat riding stressing foot dorsiflexors in the shin
-uneven pressure distribution along the shin
I think I have both. Actually, I believe the stiffness and tongue top pressure kept me from staying in the tongue. My wardens drop boot toe 6mms compared to flat ground, so there's some delta. Boot board ramp is rather low. Boot lean is what it is. I am not a backseat sker per se.
So I am unsure what to tackle first, boot flex or stance.
Would asking for a 120 flex swap make any sense?
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shin bang is most often form imbalance in biomechanics or the way the tongue meets the shin..... generally flex makes very little difference
the reason it sits 6mm high on flat ground is the gripwalk sole , put 6mm under the heel on flat ground if you want to test, f you have an iso 5355 sole it sits in exactly the same place in the binding as it does on the ground
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@CEM I have now all 3 variants of the aftermarket Atomix Tongues right here. Thanks for that suggestion!! Interestingly, they are much higher density than the stock tongues of an Hawx XTD Liner I also ordererd. The Hawx tongue is at least in the back (towards the shin) from the exact same material as the Tecnica.
Is the soft stuff shop floor oriented and the aftermarket tongues more towards actual performance? I have the feeling that they spread pressure over a much bigger area, while with the soft material, my boney shins seem to punch right through the padding. I might in fact keep tthe thin ones for my Zero Gs and the medium ones for the Mach1s. The Atomic Tongues also have much better padded cutouts for the boney protusions on top of my instep. At 25€, quite the deal, these tongues.
Another oddity, they call the thinnes HV and the thickest LV. Why would anybody use such nomenclature?
Stance wise, I have the suspicuon that Binding Delta put me backseat. Added thicker shims (now 4mm) to my warden toes. One Day with my old boots on sunday was pretty epic, more neutral stance and could drive the boots harder and complete carved turns better.
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| danbre2022 wrote: |
Another oddity, they call the thinnes HV and the thickest LV. Why would anybody use such nomenclature? |
HV = high volume LV = low volume in other words the thickest one reduces the volume left for your foot / leg.
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Another question regarding the Atomic Tongues, are they heat moldable?
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| danbre2022 wrote: |
| Another question regarding the Atomic Tongues, are they heat moldable? |
to a point, (with a liner at 117degrees C in an oven for 5 mins will shape but not kill them )
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