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Need help to stop my feet falling off

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Hey Snowheads. Need your guidance please.

Skiing hurts my feet. Always has but was bearable in the past.

10 years ago I got custom boots (which I no longer have )fitted to deal with pain in my big toe as well as a sore little toe. The boots were blown out and lessened the pain but didn’t get rid of it completely. I think I fastened my boots too tight across the toes and it may have made things worse.

We’re going skiing in Jan so we warmed up at Chill Factore last weekend and I was in agony!

The problem: The outside of my foot (5th metatarsal) hurts like hell. My pinkie and the toe next to it go numb and then hurt like hell.

I will have no choice but to wear the boots I’m given at UCPA.

What should I buy to try and lessen the pain? I can’t get new custom boots so need an off the shelf option I can at least try!

TIA


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Get your shells stretched as required at a boot fitter.
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I don’t have them anymore sadly
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Chris_n wrote:
Get your shells stretched as required at a boot fitter.


Yes this. It's easy process if you tell a boot fitter where the pain is and they will stretch it, small cost to get it done either in UK or in resort.
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Unfortunately I don’t have my custom
Boots anymore
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In spite of your comment that you can't get new custom boots: it is indeed past time for you to get new boots custom-fitted by a capable person/shop, and don't stop working with them until they fit without pain. If you start with the right boot and put in the effort to tweak them, which may well take some trips back and forth to get it right, you will solve your problem instead of kicking the can down the road. Messing with your ten year old boots that hurt you seems like a waste of time. Your bod may be different now as well.

Boots don't have to hurt. I have the same foot issue, and I buckle my boots in the morning and don't touch them again until I unbuckle in the afternoon. No pain. Its worth the effort it took to get there.
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Don't put up with foot issues - they only compound and steal the joy you get from a ski holiday. That unfortunately probably means spending on your own boots and getting them punched/stretched around the sixth toe. It's a fairly standard mod so most bootfitters (as distinct from sellers) should be able to do it. Otherwise you're at the mercy of whatever wide fits they have in the fleet at UCPA or trailing round rental shops looking for something more suitable.

Alternately you could snowboard.
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bezthespaniard wrote:

The problem: The outside of my food (5th metatarsal) hurts like hell. My pinkie and the toe next to it go numb and then hurt like hell.


I had something similar. Fixed by a properly fitted boot (with some modification) and most importantly a custom made foot bed.
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Alternately you could snowboard

Yes, I wondered that too. Given your very long-standing problems with ski boots.
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@bezthespaniard, I found similar issue at MK before skiing in March, it did however ease off when skiing as I think my boots loosened slightly and my feet grew used to it. Again this was a 3-year gap due to Covid
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@bezthespaniard, buy some new boots from a respected boot fitter.
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bezthespaniard wrote:
I will have no choice but to wear the boots I’m given at UCPA.

Why no choice?

Can you not afford to buy custom fitted boots or some other reason?
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Obvious comment, but you should wear the thinnest of ski socks.
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There isnt an easy answer except for a well fitted pair of your own.
Anything else will be sheer luck!
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Layne wrote:
bezthespaniard wrote:
I will have no choice but to wear the boots I’m given at UCPA.

Why no choice?

Can you not afford to buy custom fitted boots or some other reason?


The wife will kill me if I buy some
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bezthespaniard wrote:
Layne wrote:
bezthespaniard wrote:
I will have no choice but to wear the boots I’m given at UCPA.

Why no choice?

Can you not afford to buy custom fitted boots or some other reason?


The wife will kill me if I buy some


Either your wife will kill you, or the boots will Laughing

If your on a budget, buy some boots and get them blown to accommodate your feet, they don’t need to be top end ones, they may not feel like slippers but they will be better than being in such pain.
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Cheers everyone. Think I will just risk the marital trouble and get some custom fit.

Snow and rock offer a free fitting and custom footbed with a new pair of boots. Anyone can recommend them?
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@bezthespaniard, Manufacturers do make 'High Volume' boots - they might help ??
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bezthespaniard wrote:
Cheers everyone. Think I will just risk the marital trouble and get some custom fit.

Snow and rock offer a free fitting and custom footbed with a new pair of boots. Anyone can recommend them?


No! But it might be worth hitting where in the UK you are for people to recommend.
Or start here www.skibootpro.co.uk/Findabootfitter.html
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bezthespaniard wrote:
Cheers everyone. Think I will just risk the marital trouble and get some custom fit.

Snow and rock offer a free fitting and custom footbed with a new pair of boots. Anyone can recommend them?

Where do you live?

Don't go on price. It will be worth each trip when you can wear your boots all day, buckled up without any issue.
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Layne wrote:
bezthespaniard wrote:
Cheers everyone. Think I will just risk the marital trouble and get some custom fit.

Snow and rock offer a free fitting and custom footbed with a new pair of boots. Anyone can recommend them?

Where do you live?

Don't go on price. It will be worth each trip when you can wear your boots all day, buckled up without any issue.


Manchester
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Collin at Solutions for feet in Bicester is one of the best. A bit of a trek but worth it.
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For Manchester Rivington alpine

https://rivingtonalpine.co.uk/
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MorningGory wrote:
Collin at Solutions for feet in Bicester is one of the best. A bit of a trek but worth it.


They were very helpful when I called today but I priced it up and it’s not worth it for the one week every other year I go skiing.
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Ok, if buying boots is not an option, the best you can do is get your feet properly measured and work out what size/model of boot are a reasonable fit for your foot width, instep, etc. Next, how flexible are your ankles/how tight are your calves? A lot of foot numbness comes from inflexible ankles/tight calves meaning that when you flex, instead of moving at the ankle, your foot lifts into the upper of the boot. Muscle rolling your calves might help a little.


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£600 one off, or £70? a week rental and no enjoyment due to pain. Think about it, it makes all the difference
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bezthespaniard wrote:
Layne wrote:
bezthespaniard wrote:
I will have no choice but to wear the boots I’m given at UCPA.

Why no choice?

Can you not afford to buy custom fitted boots or some other reason?


The wife will kill me if I buy some


It'd cure your foot problems. Toofy Grin
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bezthespaniard wrote:
Layne wrote:
bezthespaniard wrote:
I will have no choice but to wear the boots I’m given at UCPA.

Why no choice?

Can you not afford to buy custom fitted boots or some other reason?


The wife will kill me if I buy some


Hire a wheelchair, or borrow one. Insist that your wife pushes you around everywhere for a week.
By Day 3 she’ll let you have the boots. Or ask for a divorce.
Win-win.


Follow me for more marriage advice.
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@bezthespaniard,
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it’s not worth it for the one week every other year I go skiing.


If the pain is so severe you ruin your skiing then you'll have wasted the cost of your holiday, no?
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Use your persuasive skills, custom made boots are a game changer. Until I bit the bullet, I’ve often had painful feet (insteps) in owned or rental boots, overnight that disappeared. The boots, fitted in St Anton, are still going strong 15 years later.
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bezthespaniard wrote:
it’s not worth it for the one week every other year I go skiing.

Perfect excuse to go more often I would have thought.

On a serious note mozwold is right, skiing holidays are not cheap whichever way you do it. And if you can't enjoy the skiing (because your feet are killing you) then really why do it?

£600 now will get you 20 weeks skiing - do the maths.
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The op along with most replys assumes the issue is solely equipment fault .
Bootfit from someone like S4F is the answer to bootfit or that question .

The footpain issue can largely be a physical lack of flexion in the 1st instance which is a personal physical issue..... where bootfit is a secondary equipment issue .

Timmych5 above mentions a lack of flexion above I bet he is at least partly if not 100% correct
Cem also mentions a lack of flexion/physical cond to ski in every footpain thread over about the last dozen years on here actually its probably longer than that


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@bezthespaniard,
Don't do it at Snow & Rock, I don't think the staff would have enough experience to do a good job on you.
I have spent an afternoon in Snow & Rock having boots fitted that were fine in the shop but killed my feet after 1 hour of skiing.

It would be worth a trip to Cambridge to "Ski Exchange"
Excellent boot lab, but you have to ring up and make an appointment.

Someone must know if there is a good boot fitter near Manchester?

We had a great presentation from Ski Bartlett about boots a couple of weeks ago, I learnt a lot about ski boots that I just did not know.
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DrLawn wrote:
@bezthespaniard,
Someone must know if there is a good boot fitter near Manchester?


Yes already posted. OP could make an appointment, take your old boots and see what they recommend?
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@bezthespaniard,
it’s not worth it for the one week every other year I go skiing.
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The cost of the boot will be spread out over many trips. Work out how much it is per trip. How does it compare to renting?

Provided you got your new boots fitted by a GOOD boot fitter, your feet will be far happier so you could ski a long day, day after day. Perhaps the extra skiing will be “worth it” already?

In the end, the cost of the flight, lodging, lift pass, hired skis/boots… all adds up! It’s probably cheaper to spend a week at the beach instead of ruining your feet by skiing in ill-fitted boots.
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Rivington Alpine is the place to go for boot-fitting if you live in Manchester. I wouldn't trust Snow and Rock to do a proper job of it.
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bezthespaniard wrote:
Layne wrote:
bezthespaniard wrote:
I will have no choice but to wear the boots I’m given at UCPA.

Why no choice?

Can you not afford to buy custom fitted boots or some other reason?


The wife will kill me if I buy some


She sounds like a caring soul - preferring you to be in agony! Toofy Grin Toofy Grin
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bezthespaniard wrote:
Snow and rock offer a free fitting and custom footbed with a new pair of boots. Anyone can recommend them?


Only in the sense that I can recommend that you stay the Be Nice please! away from them.
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Some people don't have feet issues. I have a friend who buys boots and then skis in them - I think last time he didn't even bother thermoforming the liners. No problems for him.

Whereas in the past I've had to keel over in the snow and scream due to pain in my feet, and not just once (and even worse, it sometimes happened on powder days, robbing me of that enjoyment)

Properly fitted boots solved that. It did take several trips to the bootfitter (and for that reason I'm in awe of bootfitters who can do it all in one session in the UK - I wouldn't have thought it would work but it clearly does given the number of satisfied customers).

There is absolutely no way I would go back to poorly fitting boots. In your situation, I would suggest explaining this to your wife, and if money is really an issue try to find some savings somewhere else.
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CathS wrote:
Rivington Alpine is the place to go for boot-fitting if you live in Manchester. I wouldn't trust Snow and Rock to do a proper job of it.


Yea


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