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UK kids have passports shredded by US ski lodge

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Ooops
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/british-school-ski-trip-stranded-in-new-york-after-hotel-shreds-passports/ar-AA182pBm?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=9ee1fc47d9a24a9a8ce7805586d9cbfc
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@halfhand, Shocked

I presume the hotel will be offering to reimburse the costs incurred as a result of their mistake? For starters there's the additional days accommodation and food while they sort out the temporary emergency documents in New York. Then to renew a Child's passport it costs £53.50 (although this site says you need the old passport, which may pose a small problem....)

If the hotel doesn't reimburse them then I'd expect there'd be some no win no fee US lawyers willing to take on the case. Madeye-Smiley
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Very strange - wonder why would you go on a school ski trip from the UK to New Hampshire? Puzzled Madeye-Smiley
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I asked a kid I was teaching why their school trip was going to the States, and they said it was so they could combine it with a bit of culture (?) in New York?
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stuarth wrote:
Very strange - wonder why would you go on a school ski trip from the UK to New Hampshire? Puzzled Madeye-Smiley


Possibly thats where the teachers escorting them wanted to go ? I know someone whose daughter went to Stowe skiing with the school some years ago.

I'm more interested as to why the hotel had their passports Puzzled
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I was discussing this very topic with someone the other day. Trips to USA have one big plus…far harder/no access to booze!
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I believe a lot of schools go to the US because the legal drinking age is 21 and very strictly enforced. Much easier than looking after drunk teenagers in Europe
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TommyJ wrote:
I believe a lot of schools go to the US because the legal drinking age is 21 and very strictly enforced. Much easier than looking after drunk teenagers in Europe


Good point about the drinking age rules.

Another comment, knowing how schoolkids like to mess around I just hope that the schools don't take them to US ski resorts where the chairlifts aren't fitted with safety bars! (Yes, quite a few US chairlifts don't have safety bars fitted, and even when they are quite a few Americans are reluctant to use them).
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Perty wrote:
I was discussing this very topic with someone the other day. Trips to USA have one big plus…far harder/no access to booze!


That's pretty much my understanding from teachers I've spoken to.
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We've witnessed many British school kids trying to buy booze in our little supermarket in SC over the years. None were successful, in larger places they might have succeeded. They don't stay in our village now as the hotels that used to host the kids are now apartments and a more upmarket establishment, Also the law is much stricter.
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The hotel dog ate their homework.
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I can’t help thinking there must be a bit more to this. How do you accidentally destroy 41 passports?

To paraphrase Lady Bracknell
“'To lose one passport, Mr Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose 41 looks like carelessness.”
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Be Nice please! me
It was a 30 hour bus trip to France for my school trip.
How the Be Nice please! are schools going to North America? No doubt the students parents are also paying for the Teachers to go on a jolly.
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TommyJ wrote:
I can’t help thinking there must be a bit more to this. How do you accidentally destroy 41 passports?

To paraphrase Lady Bracknell
“'To lose one passport, Mr Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose 41 looks like carelessness.”


It is not uncommon for confidential documents to be collected to be destroyed. Maybe someone threw them in the wrong pile.
I would expect a hotel generates a lot of confidential items like peoples names, addresses, bank card/credit card details, etc.
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It was a 30 hour bus trip to France for my school trip.
How the are schools going to North America? No doubt the students parents are also paying for the Teachers to go on a jolly.



MrsJ is a teacher. Now she’s not done a skiing trip but I can tell you that residential trips are definitely not a jolly. She comes back exhausted - basically working non stop for six days. Well above and beyond a normal working week.
And still there will be parents who find something to moan about to her…..
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@TommyJ, indeed....

I have a friend who has organised many ski trips for a large VI form centre

Friday PM get on coach at college
Saturday sleep all day on coach apart from clearing up coach from travel sickness
Sunday spend entire morning making sure everyone is in the right place, then spend afternoon in local A&E with boarding pupil with broken wrist
Monday spend entire morning making sure everyone is in the right place, then spend afternoon in local A&E with skiing pupil with knee injury
Tuesday spend entire morning helping pupil who has drunk too much the night before and rooting out all the drink in the rooms, then spend afternoon in local A&E with teacher who slipped on ice
Wednesday spend entire morning making sure everyone is in the right place, then spend afternoon in local A&E with skiing pupil with dislocated shoulder
Thursday spend entire morning making sure everyone is in the right place, then spend afternoon in local A&E with two skiing pupil with concussion
Friday free morning but then need to organise evening tobogganing, then spend entire night in A&E with pupil injured whilst tobogganing.
Saturday pack up and get into coach
Sunday arrive at Calais to find two pupils have left their passports in the hotel
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Hells Bells wrote:
We've witnessed many British school kids trying to buy booze in our little supermarket in SC over the years. None were successful, in larger places they might have succeeded. They don't stay in our village now as the hotels that used to host the kids are now apartments and a more upmarket establishment, Also the law is much stricter.


How times change. My first time skiing as a 12yo was a school trip to Italy. First evening meal had two red and two white bottles of wine per table of 8 kids. Second night teachers scooped them up before any more damage could be done!
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Gored wrote:
TommyJ wrote:
I can’t help thinking there must be a bit more to this. How do you accidentally destroy 41 passports?

To paraphrase Lady Bracknell
“'To lose one passport, Mr Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose 41 looks like carelessness.”


It is not uncommon for confidential documents to be collected to be destroyed. Maybe someone threw them in the wrong pile.
I would expect a hotel generates a lot of confidential items like peoples names, addresses, bank card/credit card details, etc.

To quote the article “It’s not like they’re just pieces of paper. Those are actual passports”!

And it’s in English. So can’t even say they don’t know these were passports!
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@Alastair Pink, when and where were you on a chair in the us that was not equipped with a safety bar? In my last few hundred days of skiing I can’t recall one. Note that I don’t quibble with your other point.
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@mr. mike, on a chair at Crested Butte (although it was some years ago). I think quite a few States in the East require chairlifts to have safety bars by law, however I don't think that's the case in some of the western States. For example see discussion here.

Also see this recent discussion about US resorts without safety bars on some of the lifts.

In 2019 a 6 year old girl fell at least 30 feet from a Colorado chairlift that didn't have a safety bar: https://www.summitdaily.com/news/girl-6-recovering-after-fall-from-ski-lift-at-eldora-mountain/
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@Doccam, I suspect prior visits from teacher asking them not to serve them alcohol, but to be fair, most of them looked too young to buy anyway. Hotels were English run too.
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The students should get T shirts printed “Shred slopes not passports”.
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@mr. mike, on a chair at Crested Butte (although it was some years ago).

There was certainly a Chair with no safety bar when I was there in Jan 2018.
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TommyJ wrote:
Gored wrote:
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It was a 30 hour bus trip to France for my school trip.
How the are schools going to North America? No doubt the students parents are also paying for the Teachers to go on a jolly.



MrsJ is a teacher. Now she’s not done a skiing trip but I can tell you that residential trips are definitely not a jolly. She comes back exhausted - basically working non stop for six days. Well above and beyond a normal working week.
And still there will be parents who find something to moan about to her…..


Who paid for her flight & accommodation? The School? Yourselves? The students?
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@Hells Bells, i got smashed in SC on a school trip - the 90s… so slack
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Brings back memories went on a school ski trip over 50 years ago and whilst in a cafe one pupil was complaining of a headache so teacher offered a disprin ,however we had all been told not to drink the water from the table so pupil popped it as advised in to a bottle of coca cola and vesuvious erupted!!! the ceiling walls and many tables with customers got covered in foam spray . A couple of years later went on a study tour to italy by bus ,florence ,,siena , rome etc ended up playing football against a crowd of lads from the local school cant remember who won but with our new pals afterwards went to a back street cafe , all including teachers from both schools went home well fuelled and the following day s trip was cancelled.
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@Hells Bells, i got smashed in SC on a school trip - the 90s… so slack


Laughing Laughing
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@Alastair Pink, when and where were you on a chair in the us that was not equipped with a safety bar? In my last few hundred days of skiing I can’t recall one. Note that I don’t quibble with your other point.


Loveland, Colorado, last week. And Silverton as well.
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Gored wrote:
TommyJ wrote:
Gored wrote:
me
It was a 30 hour bus trip to France for my school trip.
How the are schools going to North America? No doubt the students parents are also paying for the Teachers to go on a jolly.



MrsJ is a teacher. Now she’s not done a skiing trip but I can tell you that residential trips are definitely not a jolly. She comes back exhausted - basically working non stop for six days. Well above and beyond a normal working week.
And still there will be parents who find something to moan about to her…..


Who paid for her flight & accommodation? The School? Yourselves? The students?


I would assume that the staff didn't pay, as they were at work. You surely don't expect workers to pay for business travel and hotel costs do you? All costed-in as part of the trip cost, I would think. Puzzled

And they've given up a weeks holiday to go on the trip. They could have stayed at home and put their feet up but instead chose to work. Regardless of what you think, they were looking after kids and effectively on call 24/7.
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Surely the whole point of school trips is to get smashed away from your parents!

@valais2, Pass me my violin!
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Lol.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g46140-d265175-r880536030-The_Kancamagus_Lodge-Lincoln_New_Hampshire.html


Love all the reviews, even before this it didn't get a good press.
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I would assume that the staff didn't pay, as they were at work. You surely don't expect workers to pay for business travel and hotel costs do you? All costed-in as part of the trip cost, I would think. Puzzled

And they've given up a weeks holiday to go on the trip. They could have stayed at home and put their feet up but instead chose to work. Regardless of what you think, they were looking after kids and effectively on call 24/7.


Quite, you want me to pay to take your kids away for a week? Not happening!

Students were generally well behaved on our trip and 'getting smashed' doesn't seem to be the thing to do anymore. Herding them all through an airport was a challenge and being awake at 7am, breakfast at 7:15 and ready to go by 8 seemed an alien concept to some.

Worst problem was dealing with the ones who came on a ski trip but didn't want to ski Puzzled


As for passports, there was no way we were 'trusting' them to an hotel (with 4 other schools there), so they stayed locked in our own rooms (in the safes)!
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