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Hi, we're looking to do a summer trip to the mountains with kids and have booked (relatively!) cheap flights to Salzburg. Does anyone have any recommendations for where to go? I am rather bewildered by the choice...
Ideally looking for somewhere we can reach by public transport from Salzburg, and where we can also get around without a car. Kids are pre-teens and we would like to do a mixture of hiking/views/swimming/relaxing, as well as some slightly more adrenaline things like a zip wire or via ferrata.
So far I have looked at Zell-am-see (a lot to do, but all quite spread out and relatively expensive), Bad Gastein (zip wire & spa, but not sure if there is much else there for kids as seems a bit more aimed at older crowd?), St Johann im Pongau (affordable accommodation seems quite remote, so not sure we will manage without a car), Saalbach (a bit too far to get to?)...
Would really appreciate any first hand recommendations.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I haven't been, but when I was looking at something similar, a common shout out was the Salzkammergut area
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Getting around is quite easy on public transport.
Get a train from Salzburg to Zell-am-see. You could stay outside of Zell am see. Maishofen for example (train from Salzburg about 15 euro) & can get bus into Zell southwards or bus to Saalbach Westwards - both about 20mins & a few euros per person.
Might need to add up all that public transport costs though, as it may work out cheaper to hire a car as return trips each day could add up to 25 euro per day.
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@lyzhnik, You can get to pretty much anywhere in Austria with public transport. Even when there is not a train station there will be buses which almost always run on time no need for a car. Look at https://salzburg-verkehr.at/en/ for details (its in English and there will be an app for booking tickets etc). Not sure St Johann would be ideal it is more of a valley town, though easy to get to from Salzburg. I would have thought Saalbach would be good (as easy to get to as Zell, either bus from Salzburg airport or get the train to Maishofen with connecting buses) there is lots to do around the valley. I would agree that the Gasteinertal is focused on spas etc but still plenty of things for kids to do and direct train connection from Salzburg (its probably further than Saalbach). The Salzkammergut area is popular with all the lakes etc but maybe you might prefer somewhere quieter. There are so many options it is difficult to suggest one place over another. If you have any thoughts about staying one night in a hut then look at taking out membership of the Austrian Alpine Club (there is a british section and they do family memberships) it also includes insurance which would cover zip wires, via ferrata etc which your standard holiday insurance might not do.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@lyzhnik, if you're looking at the Salzkammergut area then fellow snowHead flangesax's place in Radstadt is a nice place to stay. There's a good value transfer available to their place from Salzburg airport with taxi huber and once you're there Radstadt has both bus services and a train station for getting around. https://austrian-adventures.com/
I would also recommend fellow snowHeads' Cacciatore and Scuss in Boots place in Bad Ischl, Landhaus Fay, however it is located in a small village a couple of kms from Bad Ischl itself and would be tricky to get around much without a car.
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@Alastair Pink, I don't think taxi humber does shared transfers in the summer any more...well they didn't last time I looked. Worth checking
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holidayloverxx wrote: |
@Alastair Pink, I don't think taxi humber does shared transfers in the summer any more...well they didn't last time I looked. Worth checking |
Thanks for that info, worth checking as you say. Although I'm not sure the OP wanted to go to Hull....
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@Alastair Pink, lol
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If you get the Salzburger summer card it gives you free or discounted entry to all sorts. Ice caves, salt mines. Gorge walks, swimming lakes and pools.
There is so much to do, the problem is deciding.
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Stay in Saalbach or Hinterglemm. Very easy to get to from Salzburg, either by train or bus to Zell am See, then a short bus-ride up the valley to S-H. If taking the 260 bus from the airport, you change at the crossroads outside Maishofen, just before Zell - the driver will tell you where and direct you to the Saalbach bus stop which is under the bridge at the crossroads.
Saalbach has cable cars, hiking, mountain biking, e-bikes, swimming, Europe's largest "Go Ape"-style park, canyoning, zip-wires, scenery, mountain huts and more. If you stay in a participating hotel or apartment, you'll receive a free Joker Card, which gives free access to the cable cars, the outdoor pool, the museum, the noddy-train at the end of the valley and discounts elsewhere. It also gives free use of the buses in Pinzgau, so you can take the bus to Zell an See to the lake, travel to the Krimml waterfalls on the steam train, or go to nearby Kitzsteinhorn (3,000m) for the amazing views of the glacier and the surrounding mountains. The Tourist Office website (Saalbach.com) has all the info you need.
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Alastair Pink wrote: |
@lyzhnik
I would also recommend fellow snowHeads' Cacciatore and Scuss in Boots place in Bad Ischl, Landhaus Fay, however it is located in a small village a couple of kms from Bad Ischl itself and would be tricky to get around much without a car. |
Thank you for the recommendation, Alastair Pink
Without a car, I’d agree. We’re probably not an ideal option.
I would recommend Bad Ischl for access to the Salzkammergut. The public transport via bus and train is excellent and many attractions in the region are easily accessed. Bad Ischl is about 1hr 15 mins by bus from the airport.
Have a look at https://www.salzkammergut.at/aktivitaeten/sommer.html for an idea of what the area has to offer. E-bike hire is also something I’d look at - several stunning lakes are easy to reach (within a 1 - 2 hour ride). The majority of the lakes (there are 76) are drinking water quality. Loads of mountain hikes of differing difficulty, historic towns like Hallstatt (20 mins by train), salt mines, mountain railways (Schaffberg), boat trips, castles etc etc.
Summer season can get busy but there are many places one can find plenty of quieter options. Avoid mid-August if possible. Kaiser Woche is the busiest week of the year in Bad Ischl! Unless you enjoy a bit of pageantry!
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@Cacciatore, is there not a bus that goes up your road from Bad Ischl? I can't remember, but that would surely make you super-accessible and nicer than staying in town (or pretty much anywhere else, IMHO!)
I'm asking for a friend who is thinking of visiting sans car, btw.
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You know it makes sense.
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quinton wrote: |
you change at the crossroads outside Maishofen, just before Zell - the driver will tell you where and direct you to the Saalbach bus stop which is under the bridge at the crossroads.
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may as well get off at maishofen,as the same bus stops at Maishofen station you would need to get on at the crossroads!!!
I know OP said Zell was expensive, and possibly the same for Saalbach. Staying in Maishofen would give equal access to both resorts (might be a bit cheaper to stay in that area) & maybe easier to go a bit further like Kaprun or Leogang
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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may as well get off at maishofen,as the same bus stops at Maishofen station you would need to get on at the crossroads!!!
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The #260 Salzburg to Zell am See bus does not go into Maishofen village - it stays on the main road to Zell, so if travelling by bus from Salzburg you have to change at the Maishofen crossroads for the Saalbach connection.
The Zell to Saalbach bus does not stop at the station at Maishofen - it turns around in the village centre about 400m away -and Maishofen station is only a small halt that is not served by many trains (which is why the bus does not go there).
If travelling by train from Salzburg, it is better to get off at Zell am See and get the Saalbach bus from directly opposite the station.
Staying in Maishofen will no doubt be cheaper than in Zell am See or Saalbach - but that's because it is a tiny village with not much going on. Without a car your options are limited - hourly buses are reliable and serve both Zell and Saalbach, but you're totally reliant on the bus to get anywhere, and these stop running quite early in the evening.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Cacciatore, ah, that's a shame. The friend in question is reluctant to use you as a taxi service.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@lyzhnik, Plus one for Flachau but then I live here! If you DM me with your "affordable accommodation" perameters I might be able to help. We have apartments in Wagrain available for Summer rental and the local Sportwelt Summer Card comes with daily free entry into the Waterworld 200m away. See here:
https://www.wagrain-kleinarl.at/de/entdecken/gaestekarte-pia.html
Flachau has a Rodelbahn, Mountain Carts, all sorts of Bike Hire and the rest. Wargrain/Kleiarl opens up some great walks, Lakes and Kletterstieg.
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Go for a place with a good visitor card. We passed through Zell am See a few years ago and we used the visitor card to give us a ride up and dpwn the Kitzsteinhorn on the gondola and a bus up the Maiskogel and we walked back down again
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hurtle wrote: |
@Cacciatore, ah, that's a shame. The friend in question is reluctant to use you as a taxi service. |
Then tell your friend that they should balance that with the pure joy of us seeing them. Besides, we often drive into town for all sorts of reasons!
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@Cacciatore, x
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@lyzhnik, I can offer centrally located accommodation in Saalbach. No Joker card though.
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