 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@BobinCH, the rock climbing is amazing too! Used to be a regular haunt for me 10/15 years ago but haven’t been back for a while - Finalborgo is a cool place !
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yep amazing climbing. Some fun trad but I think it’s mostly noted for the bolted stuff. And the food is ok I guess.
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@BobinCH, that all looks gorgeous, food and drink included!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@BobinCH, they missed the toast off your tuna melt.
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drinking a Barolo 2018 in 2023 
That's at least 3 years too early...
paired with tuna and burrata? Oh dear, oh dear...
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my Morzine trip has been canceled due to a couple of the crews injuries Finale or Barcelona is the back up destination if bones have healed up
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How many meters of decent did you get in with the guide?
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| Mother hucker wrote: |
| How many meters of decent did you get in with the guide? |
I think we did approx 3000m but it was very chilled with 9:30 starts, long lunch and finishing around 17:00 so the kids could hit the beach. You could basically ride from Sunrise to sunset if you wanted to. The guide was really flexible.
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| Mother hucker wrote: |
| my Morzine trip has been canceled due to a couple of the crews injuries Finale or Barcelona is the back up destination if bones have healed up |
A strong recommendation for The White Room in Bourg St Maurice. StevoMcD, the owner is also a snowHead.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Nice one! I was biking in Finale a few weeks back too - my idea of perfect trails and away from Nato Base no crowds and still felt like ‘adventure riding’.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Kramer wrote: |
| Mother hucker wrote: |
| my Morzine trip has been canceled due to a couple of the crews injuries Finale or Barcelona is the back up destination if bones have healed up |
A strong recommendation for The White Room in Bourg St Maurice. StevoMcD, the owner is also a snowHead. |
Be too late in the year for Alps when my mate will be fully healed up and fit
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You know it makes sense.
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La Thuile is epic. And unlike any other "bike park" I've been to. Everything is tech. And most of it is steep. Great pizza and ice cream too.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Mother hucker wrote: |
| Kramer wrote: |
| Mother hucker wrote: |
| my Morzine trip has been canceled due to a couple of the crews injuries Finale or Barcelona is the back up destination if bones have healed up |
A strong recommendation for The White Room in Bourg St Maurice. StevoMcD, the owner is also a snowHead. |
Be too late in the year for Alps when my mate will be fully healed up and fit |
They do epic (mostly) uplifted backcountry weeks until the end of September. Proper big mountain riding.
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Poster: A snowHead
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+1 for the Whiteroom...despite having to spend a week with @Kramer 
Finale Ligure is a great place, although does get very busy as it's basically to the Germans what Morzine is to UK riders. @BobinCH did you ride the Nato Base trails and Little Champery? All rather good.
@BobinCH, Aosta Valley is superb: more of a natural singletrack high-mountain vibe than Finale, orders of magnitude less busy and the trails are less chonky but so much fun. We did a couple of days with Aosta Valley Freeride a few years ago - great guiding and accommodation. They work closely with Scott and a lot of the recent bike release marketing material has been based there if you want to get a sense of the trails!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Sharkymark wrote: |
+1 for the Whiteroom...despite having to spend a week with @Kramer
Finale Ligure is a great place, although does get very busy as it's basically to the Germans what Morzine is to UK riders. @BobinCH did you ride the Nato Base trails and Little Champery? All rather good.
@BobinCH, Aosta Valley is superb: more of a natural singletrack high-mountain vibe than Finale, orders of magnitude less busy and the trails are less chonky but so much fun. We did a couple of days with Aosta Valley Freeride a few years ago - great guiding and accommodation. They work closely with Scott and a lot of the recent bike release marketing material has been based there if you want to get a sense of the trails! |
Sure did. First day we started with a few laps fro
Nato Base. Then moved on to « Rollercoaster », « River », « Euforia » and several others! Alas last day was rained out so we have a reason to go back! Aosta also on the list and diable on a normal weekend as not as far.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@BobinCH, for you Aosta is a no-brainer: two of the trails pass through Etroubles on the St Bernard road. Bar Pila, everything (we did at least) is on the north side of the valley.
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Did you have hurty hands after that lot? Certainly teaches you to hold a strong position on the bike! Which guide company did you use?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@BobinCH, how would you compare it to say the golfie/Innerleithen other than weather?
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| Sharkymark wrote: |
+1 for the Whiteroom...despite having to spend a week with @Kramer
Finale Ligure is a great place, although does get very busy as it's basically to the Germans what Morzine is to UK riders. @BobinCH did you ride the Nato Base trails and Little Champery? All rather good.
@BobinCH, Aosta Valley is superb: more of a natural singletrack high-mountain vibe than Finale, orders of magnitude less busy and the trails are less chonky but so much fun. We did a couple of days with Aosta Valley Freeride a few years ago - great guiding and accommodation. They work closely with Scott and a lot of the recent bike release marketing material has been based there if you want to The place get a sense of the trails! |
Scott has a large presence in the top end of the Aosta valley as evidenced by "The Place" in Aosta which is the essentially Scott MTBHQ Italy.
No one liking Pila bike park? great for a break or a complete alternative from the high mountain "sentiero selvaggio"
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Yeah 'The Place' is owned and run by the guy who owns Aosta Valley Freeride. I've not ridden Pila but I have mates who've DH'd there in the past and loved it.
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| Mother hucker wrote: |
| @BobinCH, how would you compare it to say the golfie/Innerleithen other than weather? |
In summary, very different! I've raced the Inners trails (but not ridden Golfie). Inners is earthy, rooty and universally technical. Finale is rocky, sandy and as BobInch says; hugely variable from chill to hilariously tech. You pick up a lot more speed on the finale trails, less twisty than Inners.
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@Sharkymark, is there plenty of grip at finale? what's it ride like in the wet?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Mother hucker, lots of grip on the rocks. It can get loose in the dusty very well ridden sections but generally it's very confidence inspiring from that perspective. Never ridden Finale in the wet - generally they close the trails as it just erodes and the fine dust turns into a mud bath.
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| Sharkymark wrote: |
| @Mother hucker, lots of grip on the rocks. |
Those not covered in dust anyway 
We rode Isallo Ecstasy when the top half was wet (unexpected shower in the hilltops out back) and it was pretty damn greasy on the stones and roots, but out/up there the dirt is more normal forest ground than the dusty stuff lower down, so just a case of picking where to brake and all good (good learning moment for me that!).
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You know it makes sense.
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| Sharkymark wrote: |
| @Mother hucker, lots of grip on the rocks. |
Those not covered in dust anyway
We rode Isallo Ecstasy when the top half was wet (unexpected shower in the hilltops out back) and it was pretty damn greasy on the stones and roots, but out/up there the dirt is more normal forest ground than the dusty stuff lower down, so just a case of picking where to brake and all good (good learning moment for me that!). |
After what felt like great grip on my new Minion DHF tires on the first day in dry conditions (including the dusty stuff down low), it rained overnight and on our second day (where we were a bit further inland) I found the rocks and roots very slippery!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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If you like Finale but want to try something less busy, more natural trails (albeit steeper) then you should really try Molini di Triora.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Looks Great!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Mother hucker, my view would actually be the opposite of @Sharkymark's. Finale is heinous in the wet. A lot of the rock is limestone or similar and becomes very greasy in the wet!
Finale is rad though. We go down a lot in the Autumn or early spring. Weather is usually great, but you get the odd wet day. It gets insanely hot in mid-summer!
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| BobinCH wrote: |
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| Sharkymark wrote: |
| @Mother hucker, lots of grip on the rocks. |
Those not covered in dust anyway
We rode Isallo Ecstasy when the top half was wet (unexpected shower in the hilltops out back) and it was pretty damn greasy on the stones and roots, but out/up there the dirt is more normal forest ground than the dusty stuff lower down, so just a case of picking where to brake and all good (good learning moment for me that!). |
After what felt like great grip on my new Minion DHF tires on the first day in dry conditions (including the dusty stuff down low), it rained overnight and on our second day (where we were a bit further inland) I found the rocks and roots very slippery! |
Which compound Minions do you have?
MaxxGrip seems a lot more grippy on rocks and roots in the wet.
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That's MaxxTerra, it's Maxxis "middle" level of grip. MaxxGripp (amazingly enough) has the most grip, but is also the softest tyre and wears out quickest. There is also MaxxRace which is the firmest high-end tyre, with the least grip but also the least rolling resistance.
All 3 are triple-compound tyres, with a firm-ish base layer of rubber, soft rubber on the edges and medium-ish rubber on the centre knobs. Maxxis also make dual compound tyres (just firm in the middle, medium-ish on the side knobs) and single-compound tyres.
They also all come in 2 different bead types (folding kevlar or rigid steel), at least 5 different sidewall types (single-ply, reinforced single-ply, extra-reinforced single-ply, so close to double ply but not quite double ply, actual double ply). Not to mention 26, 27.5 and 29" varieties.
All clear now?
Right, now try to order the exact combination of front and rear tyres individually specified by your crew of fussy bike guides....
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| stevomcd wrote: |
@Mother hucker, my view would actually be the opposite of @Sharkymark's. Finale is heinous in the wet. A lot of the rock is limestone or similar and becomes very greasy in the wet!
Finale is rad though. We go down a lot in the Autumn or early spring. Weather is usually great, but you get the odd wet day. It gets insanely hot in mid-summer! |
Conversely, I thought we're in violent agreement! As in they tend to shut it in the wet (well, very wet). I've only ridden there in the dry.
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| stevomcd wrote: |
That's MaxxTerra, it's Maxxis "middle" level of grip. MaxxGripp (amazingly enough) has the most grip, but is also the softest tyre and wears out quickest. There is also MaxxRace which is the firmest high-end tyre, with the least grip but also the least rolling resistance.
All 3 are triple-compound tyres, with a firm-ish base layer of rubber, soft rubber on the edges and medium-ish rubber on the centre knobs. Maxxis also make dual compound tyres (just firm in the middle, medium-ish on the side knobs) and single-compound tyres.
They also all come in 2 different bead types (folding kevlar or rigid steel), at least 5 different sidewall types (single-ply, reinforced single-ply, extra-reinforced single-ply, so close to double ply but not quite double ply, actual double ply). Not to mention 26, 27.5 and 29" varieties.
All clear now?
Right, now try to order the exact combination of front and rear tyres individually specified by your crew of fussy bike guides.... |
and DHR, DHR2, DHF, Assegai, Ardent,... 
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