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Serre Chevalier 2021/2022

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Yay! Just bought my season pass!!!

Let's hope I can use it this year Toofy Grin
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@KenX, let's hope so.
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Has there been any confirmation of season dates?
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@leggyblonde, 11th Dec to 24th April. Weekend opening 3rd and 4th Dec.
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@Hells Bells, Thanks. I'm considering an early trip but I'm not sure the trains will be running yet. I'll investigate!
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Well Serre Che you're probably going to have to wait another year for me........ broken tibia last week and surgery to pin it next has put paid to this coming season methinks. Will have to make do with snow porn for now. Keep the reports coming and may try a sneaky Easter trip (fortunate Mrs R doesn't read this forum)
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Odd request, if any of the locals are in the area, I broke a mug that my loving child brought back for me from a school ski trip a few years ago, and I want to see if I can replace it. It was bought in a gift shop here:

https://goo.gl/maps/XkNz4f1oRVMJebjU7

I've searched the internet and so far not found it just a more generic version without a skier, so I was wondering if someone local can visit the shop and see if they still have them



If they do could you purchase one, and send back to UK and I'll reimburse costs, thanks
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I'll try and get down there for you when they open! Give me a nudge in case I forget Very Happy
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@KenX, thanks!
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First snowfall in the village yesterday, around 10cm and still very cold!
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Odd request, if any of the locals are in the area, I broke a mug that my loving child brought back for me from a school ski trip a few years ago, and I want to see if I can replace it. It was bought in a gift shop here:

https://goo.gl/maps/XkNz4f1oRVMJebjU7

I've searched the internet and so far not found it just a more generic version without a skier, so I was wondering if someone local can visit the shop and see if they still have them



If they do could you purchase one, and send back to UK and I'll reimburse costs, thanks


Put the request on skipass.com forum, that's your best chance of success!
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Snow-kiting has started up at the Lautaret.

FOMO starting to kick in.

Just have some shite to sort out here in the UK and then back out.
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Booked into Serre Chevalier quite late - in the UCPA between 24/03/2022 and 27/03/2022 for a short trip. Quite late but I'm assured there will be a bit of snow, very excited too!
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Bit off topic but does anyone know if any of the rental places (or other stores) hire out ski clothing? Asking for a friend trying it out for their first time who have no warm clothes Smile
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@Timmaah, when are you planning in coming, and what sort of body are they, male/female etc as we might be able to help ?

Heading back out this Sunday!

Forecast as it stands.

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So, how’s the weather looking in Serre Chevalier? We’re (hopefully) heading to Villeneuve for Christmas and haven’t been to this area before. Is is generally snow-sure in late December?
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It's snow sure, opening this weekend Sat and Sun, then fully from 11th December continuously, they're making snow as we speak and more due.........
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hi - thinking of Serre Chevalier for Christmas ( as we won't be able to take our single vacced daughter inside anywhere in Italy) with husband and 3 teenagers - any recommendations for where to base ourselves please? feeling very sorry for ourselves and determined not to cancel again....looking for comfort ( and joy!) many thanks
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hi - thinking of Serre Chevalier for Christmas ( as we won't be able to take our single vacced daughter inside anywhere in Italy) with husband and 3 teenagers - any recommendations for where to base ourselves please? feeling very sorry for ourselves and determined not to cancel again....looking for comfort ( and joy!) many thanks
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@sarahklt, you won't go wrong with either Chantemerle or Villeneuve, the two middle villages!
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Thanks KenX, that’s good to hear! Any recommendations for good mountain restaurants? We’re staying at Le Rock Noir hotel, which I’ve heard has nice food, but just in case, are there some nice spots in Villeneuve for dinner?
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@coxy84, La Pastorale and Petit Pont in the old village across the river.

Woke up to circa 10cms of snow this morning Very Happy
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Thanks Weathercam! And great news re the fresh snow!! Just over 2 weeks to go now snowHead
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Yesterday it snowed pretty well all day, heavy at times and was probably 20cms or so.

We went up the hill but didn't do too much as viz was awful and there was not that much open.

Then this morning we took the Casse du Boeuf chair up and then skied down the closed piste* to the télésiège de Clot Gauthier where we put the skins on and followed a track up towards the cabane top of Cretes drag and then continued up Sellettes and then up to the top of Clot Gauthier where we then skied down the reds from there.

The ski all the way to the bottom of Clot Chevalier was not too bad, but thereafter it was pretty demanding skiing a mixture of death cookies and canon snow with an unforgiving crust, but we finally made it to the Chazelet for a couple of well-earned beers.

No checks again on the chair but Axle at the Chaz was checking on the way in.








http://youtube.com/v/7o0y-S3KXZI

And fingers crossed for more snow next week.

*piste closed as once you ski down you're committed to ski all the way back to the valley.
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Is le cavaillou still in business, I see you didn't mention it above?
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@pistemeister, unfortunately, Vincent and Daniella sold it a couple of years ago as Vincent's health was not good.

Real shame, as it was a bit of a local for us and we had some crazy New Years Eve's in there.

It's now been replaced by a pucker restaurant, L'Oree Du Bois, which is very good, and if you're a foodie then it's a toss-up between there and la Table du Chazal in Les Guibertes as to which is the best in the Valley, though there is a very good gaff in Monetier that we have not been to*.

We tend not to eat out that much preferring to go to one of the above every six weeks or so.

Just been Googling and would seem that the Hotel Alliey no longer has the restaurant!
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Weathercam, that is a shame. It was our favourite restaurant in the valley, always managed at least one meal there when we were in the area.
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@Weathercam, Hotel Alliey is undergoing refurbishment I think. They were selling off a lot of stuff when we were in the village in September.
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@Hells Bells, if you look at the website it's now all about Hotel Apartments and the Spa and swimming pool.

https://www.alliey.com/
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@Weathercam, I already have, and they are reopening the hotel next year. I spoke with the owners.
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@Weathercam, one of their chefs has opened 16ame https://www.16ame.fr/ (Old Pizzeria des Neiges) . It was there before lockdown, but we haven't (obvs) ate their since. La Chazal was pretty amazing though, ate there in September.
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Little Martin wrote:
Odd request, if any of the locals are in the area, I broke a mug that my loving child brought back for me from a school ski trip a few years ago, and I want to see if I can replace it. It was bought in a gift shop here:

https://goo.gl/maps/XkNz4f1oRVMJebjU7

I've searched the internet and so far not found it just a more generic version without a skier, so I was wondering if someone local can visit the shop and see if they still have them



If they do could you purchase one, and send back to UK and I'll reimburse costs, thanks


Shop still not open, but should be in a week or so, I'll take a look!
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Major news for those of us in the valley who have endured Pontillas over the years and which we call Pointless, especially so as it links to nothing now since they took the old shitty chair out and put the new Cote Chevalier in 150m vertical above it, so the Club Merdre people have to take it up to then only ski back down to the Casse du Bouffe.

https://www.ledauphine.com/societe/2021/12/06/serre-chevalier-20-millions-d-euros-pour-un-nouveau-teleporte-xxl
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@Weathercam, sounds like excellent news, but it's behind a paywall.
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Just opened for me.
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@Hells Bells, here you go

Patrick Arnaud avait prévenu : « l faudra un appareil hors normes, capable d’avaler les 800 mètres de dénivelé à la vitesse de 7 mètres par seconde ». En mars dernier, malgré une saison d’hiver pourrie par la crise Covid, le directeur général de SCV Domaine Skiable avait dévoilé un pan du projet d’aménagement du secteur de Villeneuve à Serre Chevalier , dans la commune de La Salle les Alpes, laissant présager d’aménagements colossaux. Neuf mois plus tard, alors que l’enquête publique vient de se terminer et que le contexte sanitaire reste incertain, le dossier technique est bouclé. Pour faire entrer Serre Chevalier dans une nouvelle dimension industrielle, commerciale et touristique, SCV s’apprête à investir entre 15 et 20 millions d’euros. Plutôt 20 que 15, d’ailleurs, selon nos informations.

Une télécabine de 10 places jusqu’à 2200 mètres d’altitude
Avec cette enveloppe financière, l’exploitant du domaine skiable et des remontées mécaniques compte démonter la télécabine du Fréjus et le DMC. À la place de ces deux appareils jugés obsolètes, un téléporté de 75 cabines d’une capacité de 10 places doit partir du Pontillas… jusqu’au Méa. Soit 3649 mètres plus loin (et plus haut). Avec un débit de 2 800 personnes par heure, là où les deux appareils encore en service cet hiver proposent un débit cumulé de 2 300 personnes par heure. Soit une montée de la vallée vers les sommets en 8 minutes seulement.

Un espace pour débutants entièrement remodelé
Mais ce n’est pas tout : en altitude, à 2 255 m, le secteur du Méa va lui aussi être remodelé car à l’arrivée de cette nouvelle télécabine, SCV envisage de créer une zone pour les skieurs débutants d’environ 1,9 hectare. Le projet prévoit l’implantation de trois tapis roulants et l’installation d’un nouveau téléski débrayable sur le tracé de l’actuel téléski du Clot. Le téléski du Méa sera quant à lui presque intégralement démantelé, pour ne garder que sa partie aval qui sera reprise sous forme d’un petit téléski à enrouleur de 225 mètres pour desservir la zone débutant.

Rénover les équipements s’adapter au changement climatique
« Le DMC et la télécabine de Fréjus, construits respectivement en 1984 et 1968, ne sont plus en adéquation avec les standards de confort et de performance des remontées mécaniques actuelles. Ainsi, la station de Serre Chevalier poursuit son programme de rénovation de ses installations pour adapter son domaine skiable aux attentes de la clientèle, et remplacer les appareils manquant de débit et/ou devenant obsolètes. Cette réflexion s’inscrit également comme un réel plan d’adaptation au changement climatique » analyse le cabinet Antea Group, chargé d’expertiser l’impact des travaux et des opérations. L’ouverture de cette télécabine est espérée pour Noël 2023 après deux étés de chantier.

Un aménagement qui suscite des questions, des réticences… voire des oppositions

Sur le papier, SCV s’apprête à démonter les 36 pylônes qui supportent le DMC et la télécabine du Pontillas pour n’en implanter que 25 nouveaux. L’impact environnemental semble donc positif. Sauf que le tracé du futur téléporté choisi par l’exploitant des remontées mécaniques passe à proximité du village d’alpage de Fréjus. De quoi susciter l’ire des habitants du hameau.

Inquiétudes dans le village de Fréjus
Ils l’ont d’ailleurs fait savoir au cours de l’enquête publique en signant le livre des doléances ouvert en mairie de La Salle les Alpes. Si ces réticents au projet se disent « conscients de la nécessité », ils s’inquiètent pour leur tranquillité : « ferme désapprobation quant au tracé », « opposition », « stupéfaction », « pollution visuelle terrible », « mécontentement » sont des termes portés à la connaissance du commissaire-enquêteur. Mais le cabinet d’étude chargé d’expertiser le projet fait une tout autre analyse de la situation : « e projet aura un impact positif : remplacement de la gare de départ par une gare de meilleure qualité architecturale, diminution globale du linéaire de câble aérien et du nombre de pylône dans le paysage » Rien ou presque dans cette étude sur les conséquences pour les riverains de Fréjus. Sauf pendant la période de travaux, où le cabinet concède « un impact important lié à aux nuisances (bruits, poussières, vibrations, poussière) rendant le massif moins attractif durant la période du chantier ».

Pour l’Architecte des Bâtiments de France, la gare de départ ressemble « à un centre commercial urbain »
Enfin, même si cet aménagement n’entre pas dans son périmètre géographique d’intervention, l’Architecte des Bâtiments de France a souhaité, elle aussi, émettre une réserve sur ce projet. Notamment sur la construction d’une nouvelle gare de départ au Pontillas qui, « par certains aspects de son architecture, n‘est pas de nature à s’insérer harmonieusement dans les perspectives paysagères environnantes. Le résultat d’ensemble évoque plus un centre commercial à caractère urbain qu’un équipement touristique lié aux loisirs en montagne ».



Le chiffre : 2287

En hectares, la superficie de bois à défricher, des mélèzes d’Europe dans l’immense majorité. Une demande de défrichement qui a reçu un avis « favorable » du ministère de l’Agriculture via la Direction départementale des territoires (DDT) mais qui doit s’accompagner d’un processus de compensation. Et SCV a le choix : soit reboiser 3430 hectares de forêt, soit d’acquitter de 17 500 euros.

La phrase

« Il y a déjà eu plusieurs réunions de concertation en mairie avec les habitants du village de Fréjus. L’objectif, c’est de positionner les pylônes pour qu’ils soient le moins visibles possibles et de reboiser au maximum pour limiter l’impact visuel. Il faut éviter des recours en justice qui retarderaient le projet. »

Emeric Salle, maire de La salle les Alpes
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Thank you very much! No info about any mid-station, yet skiing down from the proposed arrival area down to either Vallons or Cote Chevalier chairs to head to other sectors is quite tedious with the relatively narrow paths... It also looks like the top of the Mea drag will disappear, and so will the pistes that go with it.
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@Weathercam, ta
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@balso, not so sure about losing the pistes as IIRC there's a lot of greens/blues in that area so it will be ideal to plonk the beginners up the hill in that bowl.

EDIT: Stand corrected - have read the article and see what you mean. (but as I have a total aversion to drag lifts I would have to say I have never bothered with them)
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