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Season in Japan recommendations?

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Hey guys!!

Really want to do a season in Japan, hopefully this year and not sure where to go. Originally was thinking the Hakuba region because I read that Niseko is very Westernised and wanted something different but then got told to avoid Hakuba for the same reason.

Can anyone give me any other recommendations on different places? Any info would be greaaaat!
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@Gazzy118, You will need to define your objectives a little more than "Do a season".

- Are you self funded or will you be looking for work?
- If looking for work, resort related or other?
- Single resort/area, or travel to where the snow is falling?
- Ski/boarding qualifications?
- Do you speak Japanese?
- On piste or off piste, type of terrain, touring/backcountry?
- Accommodation requirements?
- Vehicle hire?

And many more……. Very Happy
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If you want to avoid very Westernerised areas but still have something to do for a whole season I would go Nozawa for sure. Great town and good skiing. Near to Madarao and Myoko for trips. Amazing onsen scene. Still lots of Aussies. Not that that's a problem wink

Appi Kogen is a bit further North and much quieter but a big area. If you are bumming around and not working a few weeks at Tenjin lodge also essential and could be some work there. My favourite place to ski in Japan with Hodaigi down the road.

Agree with the above though. Depends on what you are looking to do. Hakuba is big mountains and worth it if you go touring but pretty Western.
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PowderAdict wrote:
@Gazzy118, You will need to define your objectives a little more than "Do a season".

- Are you self funded or will you be looking for work?
- If looking for work, resort related or other?
- Single resort/area, or travel to where the snow is falling?
- Ski/boarding qualifications?
- Do you speak Japanese?
- On piste or off piste, type of terrain, touring/backcountry?
- Accommodation requirements?
- Vehicle hire?

And many more……. Very Happy



Sorry @PowderAdict I was pretty vague!!

- Will be looking for work at the resort but not fussy on the job. I did want to go down the boarding instructor route but think it's a bit out of my budget at the moment.. still considering it though!

- I don't speak any Japanese either which I hope isn't a major issue but I imagine that crosses out some areas.

- I think mainly off piste riding I prefer with some good back country exploring options,

- Also accomodation I'm not too fussy at all, just somewhere to get my head down.

- And vehicle hire, I haven't thought about that but have a full UK driving licence so that could be an option

Thanks a heaaap! Laughing Madeye-Smiley
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Thanks a lot kesone1!! I'll be sure to do some reading into these places!! Japan in a while unknown area for me and any advice or help is amazing, thanks so much!
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@Gazzy118, I know that Lodge Scole in Zao take on a seasonaire, however they do ask that they speak some Japanese this might be a stumbling block for you if you want a more Japanese resort .

Zao doesn't get many "western" visitors which makes it quite interesting and a different experience, you do get to ski with the snow monsters which is absolutely amazing not sure how much backcountry / off piste there is, another resort to look at is Shiga Kogen here you get to visit the snow monkeys, there is a ski school that has international instructors sorry can't remember the name.
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Mike Pow wrote:
How old are you?

Hi Mike, I'll be 30 at the time entering Japan so want to get on a working holiday fast!
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Gazzy118 wrote:
Mike Pow wrote:
How old are you?

Hi Mike, I'll be 30 at the time entering Japan so want to get on a working holiday fast!


Well there's your starting point, and gives you the most flexibility in terms of location, work, play.

They're not issuing them at the moment but as soon as they do get on it.

Down south I've heard great things about Lotte Arai

https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resort/lotte-arai-resort/

There'll be non-Japanese there but not as many as other places

Also the whole Tohoku area is relatively undiscovered by non-Japanese

https://www.powderhounds.com/japan/honshu/tohoku.aspx
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what’s the biggest liveliest resort to stay at in Japan (say for a month from when the season starts), just a holiday, resort life, walk to lifts etc ?
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Niseko based in Hirafu Village
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Niseko maybe considered westernised but it’s still Japan and it’s still a very different experience to the Alps/North America. It’s also f . . . airly expensive. As is the whole ofJapan. If you don’t speak Japanese and you want/need to work, it’s likely the jobs you have a chance at will be based on the fact you speak English. Not impossible but unlikely you can have your cake and eat it on that point. And Niseko is the main destination for international ski tourists in Japan. The scenery is amazing too and if you have a car, can do day trips but having a car will really eat into your budget.

If you are qualified, instructor might be your best possibility. Both Niseko and Rusutsu seemed to employ some, to my eyes, pretty average western instructors. They were very young too so possibly because they’re cheap.

With a lot of planning, budgeting and initiative, maybe you could work as a non-Japanese speaker elsewhere but how are you going to socialise? Realistically Niseko is probably your best bet.
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Are there any options for long term car rental ?
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Toyota in Kutchan

https://www.nisekocarrental.com/
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What's the season length in Japan?
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@Mike Pow, cheers
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@Mike Pow, cheers


My pleasure
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philwig wrote:
What's the season length in Japan?


Hokkaido

Normally first village snowfall around mid-November

Most resorts try to open for Japanese holiday which falls on or around 22 November

Up until around 20 December there can be very deep days but they're normally concentrated to the piste and fringes as the sasa grass (bamboo) hasn't been covered.

20 December to end of January is the busiest time in SW Hokkaido and Furano area as it coincides with school holidays, Christmas, New Year, Chinese New Year and the most consistent snowfall of the winter.

We're talking 5-15cm daily on average.

February normally sees 4 snow events each week with the temperature remaining below freezing

March will normally see 2-3 snow events each week with the occasional rain event and Spring snow conditions

March is the sleeper on Hokkaido. Perfect for touring. Driving is easy. Deserted. And still great chance of powder.

April will see the smaller areas close but there's still top to bottom skiing at the remainder. 1-2 snow events each week, but also rain. Loads of sunshine. Great Spring touring.

Bigger resorts close in the first week of May for the Japanese holiday 'Golden Week'

Still loads of touring through to mid-June.
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Thanks, still time then wink
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You couldn't pay me to got to Niseko again. Actually I would go if you were paying Smile I went 10 years ago and not good if you are looking for a slightly more authentic experience.
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Mike Pow wrote:
Toyota in Kutchan

https://www.nisekocarrental.com/


Ta Mike.
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kesone1 wrote:
You couldn't pay me to got to Niseko again. Actually I would go if you were paying Smile I went 10 years ago and not good if you are looking for a slightly more authentic experience.


Smile

That's like saying I went to Tignes or Val d'Isere and didn't get a truly French experience.

It's an international resort with international workers and guests.

If it wasn't for the international entrepreneurs you wouldn't have heard of it.

You only have to travel around an hour or two out of the Niseko Resort Area to get a very different, dare I say it, more authentic ski experience.

For example, go ski at Sun Laiva near Noboribetsu (90 mins)

You'll more than likely be the only non-Japanese there.
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Thanks, still time then wink


Definitely but only if you have worker's visa or a business / property interest

No tourists yet
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Mike Pow wrote:
kesone1 wrote:
You couldn't pay me to got to Niseko again. Actually I would go if you were paying Smile I went 10 years ago and not good if you are looking for a slightly more authentic experience.


Smile

That's like saying I went to Tignes or Val d'Isere and didn't get a truly French experience.

It's an international resort with international workers and guests.

If it wasn't for the international entrepreneurs you wouldn't have heard of it.

You only have to travel around an hour or two out of the Niseko Resort Area to get a very different, dare I say it, more authentic ski experience.

For example, go ski at Sun Laiva near Noboribetsu (90 mins)

You'll more than likely be the only non-Japanese there.


Agreed! It’s just not a place I’d want to stay for a season and didn’t rate the skiing much there. I’m not slating Hokkaido though. Loads of great stuff there. Would rather stay in Sapporo or one of the smaller resorts.
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kesone1 wrote:
Mike Pow wrote:
kesone1 wrote:
You couldn't pay me to got to Niseko again. Actually I would go if you were paying Smile I went 10 years ago and not good if you are looking for a slightly more authentic experience.


Smile

That's like saying I went to Tignes or Val d'Isere and didn't get a truly French experience.

It's an international resort with international workers and guests.

If it wasn't for the international entrepreneurs you wouldn't have heard of it.

You only have to travel around an hour or two out of the Niseko Resort Area to get a very different, dare I say it, more authentic ski experience.

For example, go ski at Sun Laiva near Noboribetsu (90 mins)

You'll more than likely be the only non-Japanese there.


Agreed! It’s just not a place I’d want to stay for a season and didn’t rate the skiing much there. I’m not slating Hokkaido though. Loads of great stuff there. Would rather stay in Sapporo or one of the smaller resorts.


Yep

Otaru, Sapporo, Asahikawa all great towns/cities close to skiing.
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Depends on what you're looking to get out of a season. I work in Niseko and love it, yes it's quite western, but that makes life much easier, because Japanese is not easy to learn.

The other options if you only speak English are probably Hakuba valley, Nozawa, Rusutsu, Minakami/Yusawa, Kiroro and Furano.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Both my son and my daughter did a season in Niseko as ski instructors.

Both had a fantastic time.

I visited both times...and had a fantastic time.
There is some great skiing in Niseko, some lovely (authentic) food, great bars.
It is so easy to get to a whole host of other places.

There is one rule, and ONLY ONE RULE when contemplating a season in Japan:

Listen to @Mike Pow, he is The Guru.
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