Hi there, have decided to take the plunge for next season and convinced the wife that the “one off” holiday (not to be repeated due to price!) will involve a trip to Canada (never been skiing outside Europe before) for the first time ever to see Vancouver and ski in Whistler. Due to the pricing structure it turns out that a season Epic local pass is only slightly more expensive than a Whistler 9 day pass…and this includes rather randomly a 5 days in Andermatt in Switzerland, I suspect recently invested into by Vail Resorts.
I was thinking on a rather selfish level for extra skiing outside school holidays when family couldn’t make it could organise a short break- get a cheap out of season flight to Geneva and take the train to Andermatt- though I suspect staying there isn’t cheap! I ski pretty much anything and don’t mind lift served off piste though not done much touring.
Seems an interesting area though possibly a touch dark in winter and not entirely linked (though investment changing this?)
Anyone been in that area? Worth an explore?
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@Dr. Will, Yes , went for a couple of days 2 seasons ago and was it very interesting . I’m sure some others will give a better a view . I thought the investment in the area was Egyptian money. One big mountain with a huge back country then a ribbon ski area taking in a few villages and the railway on the other side of the resort . Lively and fun with good snow .
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Rob Mackley wrote:
@Dr. Will, Yes , went for a couple of days 2 seasons ago and was it very interesting . I’m sure some others will give a better a view . I thought the investment in the area was Egyptian money. One big mountain with a huge back country then a ribbon ski area taking in a few villages and the railway on the other side of the resort . Lively and fun with good snow .
As far as I can see the investment in recent years has been with Egyptian money but I think Vail Resorts bought a majority stake just before last season so maybe now is the time to go before Vail Resorts make it too expensive!
Ski arena is an excellent ski area with a great snow record. Andermatt (Gemstock) for thé off piste and Sedrun /Disentis fir more bellow stuff
https://www.andermatt-sedrun-disentis.ch/en/
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Fly to Zurich not Geneva. Its 2.30hr by train into town or 1.5hr in the car. Geneva is miles away.
Fly to Zurich not Geneva. Its 2.30hr by train into town or 1.5hr in the car. Geneva is miles away.
The reason I was thinking Geneva was that I would have to travel a further 2 hours from Plymouth to London to fly to Zurich as I don’t think Bristol do flights to Zurich so might as well rather than paying for the extra petrol just spend more time on the train.
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Looking further at it the combined ski area Ardermatt-Sedrun-DiSentis looks massive in scope, you could spend the entire day travelling from Andermatt to Disentis and just about have time to take the train back (prob no time to ski back) Or could stay centrally in pretty inexpensive accommodation by Swiss standards in Sedrun which is quieter than Andermatt it seems and have the time to ski out and back in either direction. Def interested now!
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Get the full Epic pass then you can sneak a week in the 3V, then one in the Brenta Dollies then one in Verbier too.
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Have done a couple of off-piste weeks there, but not recently.
There is abundant off-piste off the back of the Gemstock goiung down into the next valley to Hospental.
We were guided
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Andermatt is a gem of an area. Not particularly well known to the British punters but those of us who know it generally love it.
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Thanks guys will definitely give it a go if I can get time off with decent flights and my parents are up for a short break with me while the children are at school- wife doesn't usually mind me keeping her mother in law occupied without her for a few days, hehe!
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If you go to Andermatt and want some nice adult digs check out the River House Hotel. We enjoyed it.
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The interesting skiing (steeper slopes and off-piste) are on the Gemsstock. Our guide never bothered with taking us on the other side. So Sedrun is only a good centre if you want mellow skiing.
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snowball wrote:
The interesting skiing (steeper slopes and off-piste) are on the Gemsstock. Our guide never bothered with taking us on the other side. So Sedrun is only a good centre if you want mellow skiing.
Thanks yes I can see that other side is mainly mellow blues and reds- was just thinking with my 80+ yo parents in mind- they are both experienced skiers but my Dad is somewhat self taught and had his confidence knocked by a shoulder dislocation not that long ago- so probably not too many blacks/hard reds for him! Though the flipside is I suspect there's a lot more going on in Andermatt so if my parents wanted to ski part of the day and chill out in the village for the rest again Andermatt may be better and can always take the train back from wherever we end up skiing to the right hand side of the domain.
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Rogerdodger wrote:
Andermatt is a gem of an area. Not particularly well known to the British punters but those of us who know it generally love it.
+1 on this. Love Andermatt skiing. We took a guide and went off Gemsstock out of the ski area.
Fantastic for off piste although I would definitely recommend using a guide.
The only downside is that weekends can be very busy as it is so accessible by road and rail. It's about five years since I was last there and the Gemstock area is served primarily by two old cable cars. Big queues on Saturday and Sunday.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
Get the full Epic pass then you can sneak a week in the 3V, then one in the Brenta Dollies then one in Verbier too.
As I'll also have an Epic pass, where would you recommend in the Brenda's?