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I’m looking for a bit of advice, on two counts. We bought my son some QST 92s this summer. He’s skied on them for two weeks now, once with Uni and then last week in Tignes. Both weeks, the snow was excellent.
The QSTs were showing quite a bit of wear after the first week - mainly the edge of the top sheet peeling away (delaminating?) badly in numerous places. Is this to be expected?
Secondly, last week he also managed to take a chunk out of the base on the one thin, stony piste of the week. How easy is a base repair to do oneself, or is that something best left to the experts?
This is the first time we’ve bought skis, hence the newbie questions. I’ll try and post some pics if anyone needs.
Thanks in advance.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Excellent advice as mentioned above if you want to increase your ski knowledge.
If you're not confident of practicing on fairly new skis, then Bartlett Ski near Uxbridge is probably best and closest route.
Also from the above, I've previously got from them scrap used skis from their skip to practice repair/drilling/edge prep on for a no risk way to give your new skills a sample run up with.
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| rainman wrote: |
I’m looking for a bit of advice, on two counts. We bought my son some QST 92s this summer. He’s skied on them for two weeks now, once with Uni and then last week in Tignes. Both weeks, the snow was excellent.
The QSTs were showing quite a bit of wear after the first week - mainly the edge of the top sheet peeling away (delaminating?) badly in numerous places. Is this to be expected?
Secondly, last week he also managed to take a chunk out of the base on the one thin, stony piste of the week. How easy is a base repair to do oneself, or is that something best left to the experts?
This is the first time we’ve bought skis, hence the newbie questions. I’ll try and post some pics if anyone needs.
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Delam is bad. Take pics and go back to shop / manufacturer with them.
Wouldn’t worry too much about base damage unless it’s exposing the edge. Best left to the pros in my opinion as will likely need a base grind after to get flat.
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@BobinCH, it is right up against the edge, which is what has worried me about it. I’ll give Bartlett a shout. Thanks.
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De-lamination should be a warranty issue, as long as you bought from a UK retailer they should be able to help you out with it.
The base damage is best done by a pro, it'll need proper "edge grip" to hold it strong and a base grind to make sure the base us 100% flat again.
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They came from Ekosport, so time to test their customer service!
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The last think you need is a base grind. Any decent shop or DIY'er can dress down a repair flat and restructure etc.
Post some pics of the top sheet and the base.
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First three shots are the top-sheet edges, last one is the rather large hole in the base!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@stuarth, I did point out that I had skied the same run, on my brand new Scott SUVs, with no discernible marks. 18yr olds…
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He ski those through a carpark?
Proximity to the edge makes me see that core shot as a shop job rather than a DIY fix. Especially if it is your first go.
Topsheet damage looks more like chipping than delamination but it's hard to tell from that angle. Side on view of the sidewall would be better. If it's just chipping then that's normal wear and tear. I'd put some epoxy on it and call it good. Delam is a warranty issue, as others have said.
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You know it makes sense.
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@gorilla, thanks for the response re top sheet. I’m unsure as to how much of that should be expected - the skis travelled in a bag and were skied on very snowy slopes in VT for one week, so I was surprised to see the level of peeling/ chipping. But happy to take guidance on that. Will post a side-on when I’m home.
The base was one piste in Tignes which had a few loose stones, but definitely not rock-hopping level so how the f@*€ he’s managed that is beyond me!!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I'd be surprised if that was genuinely a warranty situation for the top sheet, although it's difficult to see exactly how much and how far the damage extends just from photos.
De lam is ordinarily showing as a substantial part of the layer peeling away from the sub layers. Gloss/gel coat cosmetic top finish if it's chipping away will normally be from clattering the skis together while skiing, unsightly but some ski designs will be more vulnerable than others after fairly small usage.
Can you get your fingernail under the edge of the chipped areas to show the layer is further peeling up ?
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@rainman, understood. Top sheet chipping is common if the skis knock together while skiing. Usually the way I have damaged mine. Some level of wear is inevitable.
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I can't imagine how "a few loose stones" caused that base damage.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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It almost looks like the ptex base has been melted on something.
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The base looks horrible, and the edge even worse. If the skis had just developed those top sheet issues when left in the cupboard that would be one thing, but considering the state of the edge/ base in that last shot I'd say it's more likely that your skier was hitting rails or rocks and assuming that was consequence free.
That orange/ black top sheet shows hits pretty badly though - a black bus stop pen may reduce the cosmetic ugliness.
I wouldn't personally attempt to patch the core shot, and if you're not experienced with more straight forward repairs then it's definitely one for the professionals.
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You definitely should get the bases repaired (for the sake of the core), though tbh if it was me I would just forget it and keep skiing them. Tools not jewels etc.
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Thanks all. I think we will go and get the base done properly, and put the top sheet chipping down to clattering his skis together.
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