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We booked early with Esprit for next season in the hope we can get away. I noticed they've massively scaled back their operations to only 4 resorts and a handful of hotels / apartments. We originally booked for Champoluc but are now being told there won't be a nursery running there this year. All the other nurseries, kids options are shown as "sold out" in other resorts too, although they have offered us an alternative in Val D'Isere. Seems strange that a company specialising in family hols can't offer nursery or childcare places. Anyone know what's going on?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Dashed, probably due to Brexit and associated staffing issues.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Weathercam wrote: |
| @Dashed, probably due to Brexit and associated staffing issues. |
I did wonder if this was the case but blimey, this could be the end of organisations like this if they can't figure a way through it!
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@Dashed, what are Esprit proposing? First time we used them it was precisely because they had nursery as we as kids clubs. Without it we wouldn’t have used them.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Dashed, exactly, and not just childcare ski hols but the likes of sailing holidays / sailing schools offering RYA courses and the like is what I've heard.
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Slightly related seen an email saying Hotelplan are also merging Inghams and Total Ski operations
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| NickyJ wrote: |
| @Dashed, what are Esprit proposing? First time we used them it was precisely because they had nursery as we as kids clubs. Without it we wouldn’t have used them. |
So far, they've offered to move us from Champoluc to Val D'Isere - fine in principle but the Ducs De Savoire (which is the chalet hotel they are offering) was always their cheapest option and we stayed there a couple of years ago - it was like a school trip (including the food). It's in the process of being refurbed apparently and they are doing childcare there, but it's not on their website anywhere. Tignes and La Rosiere were also mentioned as options, but neither seem to have any childcare options available so waiting for them to come back to us with alternatives which DO have childcare!
I have a feeling they are really struggling for staff and are trying to consolidate childcare into as few locations as possible.
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@Dashed,  . Have stayed in their Ducs de Savoie and yes it was OK but the Champoluc place looks nicer. We stayed with then in Gressoney and loved that region and it is high on my list to return to when we can.
Best of luck. I don’t envy your situation.
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Brexit. They can’t ship nannies over in number.
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I suspect C19/Brexit/Restriction on UK workers all combining. They are probably in a position where they don't want to over commit to 2021/22 in the event that it is put on hold again.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Same guess here. You can try to be optimistic, they may be investigating the market for recruiting enough Irish (or Irish passport holders) to replace their normal staff. If they have to look for locals fluent in English - and with a nanny qualification recognised in the UK - they may need to offer higher pay and adjust prices for customers accordingly.
There is a risk Esprit and similar, as well as the summer sailing specialist holiday companies, will no longer find their model viable.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| j b wrote: |
Same guess here. You can try to be optimistic, they may be investigating the market for recruiting enough Irish (or Irish passport holders) to replace their normal staff. If they have to look for locals fluent in English - and with a nanny qualification recognised in the UK - they may need to offer higher pay and adjust prices for customers accordingly.
There is a risk Esprit and similar, as well as the summer sailing specialist holiday companies, will no longer find their model viable. |
I think that is indeed a risk.
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