 Poster: A snowHead
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I am currently considering buying a ski jacket. Moat people will say that hard shells are most versatile, however I tried a few (arcteryx, marmot) and they just feel like a stiff, cheap raincoat... Not my cup of tea.
So I want to buy some insulated jacket with primaloft. I normally ski in conditions +3 celcius to - 10 celcius. If it gets colder I can always wear a warm base layer, that is not an issue. I want sth that would wotk fine with light base layer in the above conditions.
Primaloft has silver/gold options, and 60/80/100g versions. Can someone compare those for me or link some comparison page? Which combination would be best for me?
Many thanks in advance for all answers!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Everybody’s physiology is different, so it’s not possible to say something like ‘in those conditions you need a jacket with Primaloft Gold 100gsm on the body and Gold 80gsm on the sleeves’. Also the outer shell fabric will make a big difference to the warmth, Goretex will make the jacket considerably warmer than a shell fabric without a waterproof membrane.
Primaloft Gold offers better warmth per weight than Primaloft Silver, but the difference isn’t huge.
Do you know the specifications of the jacket that you ski in at present? That might help us to give a more helpful answer.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Gold is about 15% warmer than Silver (weight for weight). So 80g Gold has similar warmth to 100g Silver but will be lighter.
60g/80g/100g are all just variants of similar levels of insulation for skiing. Think of them as
60g - a bit less warm
80g - warm
100g - a bit more warm
100g Silver Primaloft is fairly common spec for a normal use ski jacket. I doubt if you you’ll want to go any heavier than that as you can layer up. +3 Celsius is hardly sunny spring conditions so I also doubt if you’ll need to go any lighter as you can always wear something else in those conditions.
In the end I wouldn’t worry too much about it. It sounds like you’re skiing in fairly typical conditions and most ski jackets will be fine. If you’re body runs a bit hot or cold then just move up or down one step in weight.
As long as you’re jacket is breathable then you should be comfortable even if you end up with a bit more insulation than is ideal.
Ps. What Oceanic says about the waterproof layer and breath ability is a good point. My ski jacket is very breathable and I don’t half notice the effect of cold winds blowing through.
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Tue 28-01-20 10:50; edited 1 time in total
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@bober02, I ski in a marmot randonnee Jacket I bought around 5 years ago, it is a goretex shell with stretch, which is much better than those stiff shells you mentioned. Not sure what the latest version of their stretch shell is, but I'd definitely recommend it, it is brilliant for layering with.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The jacket I am considering (the brand is not relevant as a few of tehm have very similar spec - spyder/north face) is pretty much this:
Goretex
stretch fabric
insulation - primaloft 80 - 100, either black/sliver or gold
As far as I see it, in order to be able to ski in lighter conditions and have an ability to layer, 80 - 100 g silver primaloft would be ideal?
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Reading the title I thought this was going to be a thread about loft insulation..... 
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lol
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@bober02, don't buy a ski jacket. Buy a shell. Much better idea.
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As far as I see it, in order to be able to ski in lighter conditions and have an ability to layer, 80 - 100 g silver primaloft would be ideal?
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Yes. This would be ideal for what you want.
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I have a very light primaloft Gold duvet that packs down into it's chest pocket and can be carried in a small rucksack. For skiing I have long abandoned my mountaineering Goretex and use a much cheaper shell from D2Bs top end range. It's soft, comfortable and very breathable. On hot days I've skied in temps of 20C so I much prefer a well vented non insulated jacket.
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@under a new name, I hated the shell when I put it on recently, as per my original comment. Hence, I want to stick to regular jacket with medium insulation, nice and comfy
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Don't rule out a decent softshell.
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@bober02, arcteryx atom AR , best all-round option unless you ski in the rain
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You know it makes sense.
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I'm currently making my own Goretex jacket with thinsulate lining. Finally I'll have a decent number of internal and external pockets, detachable helmet compatible hood and an insulated collar - so many jackets these days don't have a collar and I fall to see why? I hate a.cold neck and always wear an icebreaker snood as well.
Unfortunately the only thinsulate available in the UK is 150g/m stuff which is good to -30c, but hey, I'll be warm!
It'll be a winter walking and skiing jacket and I'll use my Paramo for warmer skiing days with a merino base layer
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