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does anyone know if one exists with resorts/prices?
I have seen them for USA resorts, but not europe.
Our group always work to a set budget, so easier if I subtract lift pass, transfers, flights from the budget to know what is left for accomodation.
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I suspect there are too many variables: children / adults / seniors / veterans (with each resort having different age boundaries); 6/7/8 days (+ many more); local village / local valley / wider area / beginner lifts only; discounts for 2 people / 3 people / families (with different definitions); discounts for Saturdays; etc etc.
You almost need a spreadsheet for a single resort.
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A quick google shows that there isn't much of a difference for 6 day lift passes in the Dolomites, Espace Killy and Zillertal. All are between €280 and €300. And Verbier is 375 CH Francs.
I can't imagine anywhere in Europe being wildly different (other than Bulgaria), so a £300 budget should cover your planning, regardless of where you end up.
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I would guess the savings are in the deals, the dads & kids in our group always share the family deals as it’s 2 adults, doesn’t have to be mum & dad
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@Mr.Egg, Just getting the spreadsheet for a single resort can be difficult and complex. This is the one for Les Arcs alone https://www.lesarcs.com/fileadmin/user_upload/pdf/forfaits/ADS_TARIFS2020_BAT-WEB.pdf.
So if you fancy an eight day Les Arcs pass and you are over 12 but under 65 expect to pay 368€ but if the there are 3 of you in your party expect a discount of 15%.
So as @Bergmeister, says, unless you are going to Bulgaria (other central European countries are available) budget £300
ps while researching this reply I had a look at lift pass prices in Andora. In previous years they have been slightly more expensive than Les Arcs but this year they are about the same. With one exception - a big one. You get a free lift pass at 70 rather than 75 - Soldeau here I come. Well I won't.
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@diaphon,
Thanks, I think that is one I have seen before.
We don't need hundreds of KM of pistes. We split up over the mountain & then meet up at lunch & go off as a group.
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There are usually three seasons , low, medium and high, corresponding lift prices for each. In low, in Italy, hotels will include "free" pass for six night HB accom
Passes can be local area only or entire domain, or local area with one day in entire domain, so lots of variables
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Thanks for that link @diaphon, It makes interesting reading. Having followed on and believed @Bergmeister's, statement about most resorts being about £300 for, what I assume, is a 6 day lift pass, I was shocked to see the variety. Who would have thought that Sölden was 23% more expensive than Les Arcs for a 6 day pass.
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A very odd way to decide on where to go ...
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Bergfex has a Ski Resort Finder facility where you can set a number of search parameters, daily lift pass price being one of them, you can order them price ascending if you click on the 'Preis' header...
https://www.bergfex.com/oesterreich/suchen/
It won't tell you the6-day pass price for your group and dates, but you can get a feel of relative ski pass prices vs size of resort for example by ordering by piste length and scanning the lift pass prices.
It does depend on the prices being loaded into the search engine which seems a bit incomplete this season as some ski areas have yet to open.
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| A very odd way to decide on where to go ... |
I don't decide where to go.
The budget of the group does.
Someone will ask for a chalet
Another somewhere with a pool
or close to pub
or what about childcare, lessons, etc.
ski hire.
Transfers
So I have to factor all this is in.
I have to look at various airports for various dates.
There will always be someone who says 'to expensive'
No single person wants to share. Have you tried finding an 8 bedroom Self Catering Chalet that is not miles away from any form of life, lifts, ski runs?
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@luigi,
Thanks,
I did look there, but in a different part of the website & could not find a search option
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Naturally, it'll only be for Sat-Sat, as wide an area as they come. Nobody wants to ski only a limited area anyway!
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A bit odd only going for the biggest area possibile and then for 8 days (sat to sat). I always tell people coing to Les Arcs not to buy a Paradiski pass unless they are coming for a busy week and they want to use the queue jumping facility. There is more than enougth skiing for 8 days in Les Arcs alone. Last season I skied about 21 days in Les Ars and went over to La Plagne precisely twice.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@johnE,
We dont tick runs off...
If there is a particular run we like (or mountain hut!), then we do it again & again. Infact, we prob plan our skiing based on beverage stops.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Mr.Egg wrote: |
| under a new name wrote: |
| A very odd way to decide on where to go ... |
I don't decide where to go.
The budget of the group does.
Someone will ask for a chalet
Another somewhere with a pool
or close to pub
or what about childcare, lessons, etc.
ski hire.
Transfers
So I have to factor all this is in.
I have to look at various airports for various dates.
There will always be someone who says 'to expensive'
No single person wants to share. Have you tried finding an 8 bedroom Self Catering Chalet that is not miles away from any form of life, lifts, ski runs? |
I feel your pain .........having been the 'organiser' for a few of our group holidays! One of our singles won't sleep in a bunk bed - even if it is only her in the room, another wants a full oven if we are self catering and must have comfy sofa.......... I ended up just telling them this is where we are staying - if you want to ski then come - if not then enjoy looking at our pics while you're sat on your sofa at home!! 
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KathE,
Wow! You have some needy mates!
Given the bunk comments etc your take it or leave it approach seems very reasonable 
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@Mr.Egg, your mates don't ask much of you then? I would pack it in but if you don't I hope these help.
https://www.onthesnow.co.uk/europe/skipass.html
https://skiaddict.co.uk/blog/lift-pass-prices-for-2019-20-and-how-to-save-money/
As you mentioned childcare, I assume your party includes kids. What we have found is that the kids free passes with an adult pass does vary by age, so some resorts can hand them out to kids as old as ten, which can make a decent difference in overall lift pass costs.
I would have thought though as others have said that lift pass costs are less variable and a smaller cost than the accommodation. I would get the accommodation options looked at and defined then worry about the cost of the passes next. And travel is easy to get figures for.
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@ster,
Yes, kids ski lift prices are always tricky, but next time they will get value out of it & not just stuck on nursery slopes!
I tried recommending Austria. Got everything priced up - within budget. Lift pass was free for kids due to age, etc.
Then it all fell apart because it was a Sun-Sun trip!
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@Whitegold,
yup - found a cracking chalet down the valley in St Martin. More family friendly & easier links to Meribel.
someone found an excuse not to like it & it got shelved! That was because of the lift passes & them not wanting to pay the extra £50 for the whole 3 valleys!
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| Mr.Egg wrote: |
@Whitegold,
yup - found a cracking chalet down the valley in St Martin. More family friendly & easier links to Meribel.
someone found an excuse not to like it & it got shelved! That was because of the lift passes & them not wanting to pay the extra £50 for the whole 3 valleys! |
Sounds like you associate with some very keen skiers (not!) 
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@KathE, Hah! 100% correct; it gets to a point where you do the best you can and you just say "This is where we're going, it costs £X; up to you!"
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Mr.Egg, you are going about it the wrong way, totally.
This is how you organise a trip.
“We are going to (resort) these dates, want to join us? This is our hotel”
“ oh, yes please”
“Cool, here’s the hotel number. We’ll text you our flights”
If no-one joins you, well, that’s a lesson, isn’t it?
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the largest variable is flights. check where and when is cheapest to fly, and plan from there
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You know it makes sense.
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@under a new name,
It's coming to that!
try explaining that 7+ bedroom chalets all with en-suite bathrooms, sauna/hot tub, ski in/ski out does not exist for self-catered!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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A mate reliably informs me, that with his US military active service discount, an annual pass in Colorado is $199...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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as if there was plenty of 7+ ensuite bedroom challets in every resort available for high season weeks. Stop dreaming, get the first you can gat your hands on.
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