 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi all,
Have any of you tried the Fischer scan fit app? Is it usable and precise at all, and can it be used to narrow down the correct boot before visiting a bootfitter? I know that going to the bootfitter first i the best of doing it, but if you don't have any good ones nearby, it might be an option to narrow down a couple of boots to bring? Any input from a pro bootfitter?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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like any scanning system,/ app it is only as good as the data held on the system, Fischer will have this set up for their boot only, but there may be a better shaped boot out there for you, so it might work it might not. each and every brand has its own "shape" in each model what they consider the optimum amount of taper at the toes, height over the instep width at the heel and if your foot matches what Fischer consider as their "ideal" then all is good....
The same applies to all these scanner systems appearing in stores, mostly they work on library principle machine learning (scan foot and i then tell the machine what boot in what size you went into) this data base can get easily corrupted by a boot seller saying you need a bigger wider boot than you really do, the machine can't tell if you are in that boot Sellers shop or a boot fitters shop where they have tools and expertise to make some simple adjustments, so consequently the machine will recommend what it has for the closest thing to your foot in IT's database. Being as there are many more chains than specialist boot fitters it is easy to see how the database can become tainted
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I recently got a Fischer Ranger One 130 and tried to use the app now to see if it matches but apparently the app is not really working for me, but I agree with @CEM, basically it matches your feet format with boots that people with a similar foot like yours bought.
One thing to keep in mind: if you have a wide feet, maybe Fischer is not the best one for you because their biggest last is 101mm.
I have a wide feet, before my actual boot I was wearing a Nordica 104mm, Fischer has a top of 101mm, eventually we made it work, but I had to come back there twice for a good stretch. Besides that, I really like the boot.
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Thank you @CEM - good points that i would never have figured out myself. One other question: The app returns mm for different parts of the foot, so do you know if they can be trusted (accurate or not?)?.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@AndreSilva i am looking for a boot for the missus, and although not wide, it appears to be quite a difference between her feet, so my first thought was to have it done in the resort, but i have no idea what will be open if anything:-)
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Utterly useless.
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| DanishRider wrote: |
| Thank you @CEM - good points that i would never have figured out myself. One other question: The app returns mm for different parts of the foot, so do you know if they can be trusted (accurate or not?)?. |
that is probably the only vaguely accurate part of it, all these "solutions" that take several pictures on a phone use a piece of paper as a size guide, they know the size of the paper (A4 or US legal) so it can reference from that at the various different angles to get the sizes
it presents you with a 3d rendered picture of you foot by joining the dots so to speak, but it doesn't fit the boot.... and please do not think that because you have a foot of X width that you need a boot of X or X plus, you need a boot which as closely matches the anatomy of your foot as is possible, preference is always to get the heel/ankle/instep area really well held, and if that means as a fitter we have to stretch the forefoot by a load then so be it, it is a lot harder if not near impossible to make the rearfoot tighter than it is to make the forefoot wider.
scanners are popping up all over the place and consumers love them because a computer is giving the information not a person (the computer has to be right doesn't it?) in 3-4 years we are just going to see more and more people with their computer recommended boots saying they are too loose, their feet sloping around and wiht no control and getting pain from the motion .... i think if used CAREFULLY by an experienced boot fitter there is a place in terms of getting really accurate sizing BUT, the computer cannot tell your tolerance to compression, which is different to every single person on this site.
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| CEM wrote: |
| DanishRider wrote: |
| Thank you @CEM - good points that i would never have figured out myself. One other question: The app returns mm for different parts of the foot, so do you know if they can be trusted (accurate or not?)?. |
that is probably the only vaguely accurate part of it, all these "solutions" that take several pictures on a phone use a piece of paper as a size guide, they know the size of the paper (A4 or US legal) so it can reference from that at the various different angles to get the sizes
it presents you with a 3d rendered picture of you foot by joining the dots so to speak, but it doesn't fit the boot.... and please do not think that because you have a foot of X width that you need a boot of X or X plus, you need a boot which as closely matches the anatomy of your foot as is possible, preference is always to get the heel/ankle/instep area really well held, and if that means as a fitter we have to stretch the forefoot by a load then so be it, it is a lot harder if not near impossible to make the rearfoot tighter than it is to make the forefoot wider.
scanners are popping up all over the place and consumers love them because a computer is giving the information not a person (the computer has to be right doesn't it?) in 3-4 years we are just going to see more and more people with their computer recommended boots saying they are too loose, their feet sloping around and wiht no control and getting pain from the motion .... i think if used CAREFULLY by an experienced boot fitter there is a place in terms of getting really accurate sizing BUT, the computer cannot tell your tolerance to compression, which is different to every single person on this site. |
Good and Sound input  As stated: For the missus riding “slippers” +1 size up, i thought this might be an option to buy some before visiting the fitter. The good fitter is quite far away, so hope to save an extra trip to him. On another note: When buying in the resort, very few stores actually have a good stock of boots, unless in Stanton og Val D’isere. Tried to get her a new boot in Avoriaz last year, and virtually nothing that fitted her, and Maybe 6 models in total to choose from!
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@DanishRider, the fitters in Concept Pro have a wide range but commented that These days they could fit just about any foot with only two brands but people like choice.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @DanishRider, the fitters in Concept Pro have a wide range but commented that These days they could fit just about any foot with only two brands but people like choice. |
Most admit that i never have been in a boot shop in Cham, but if anywhere would need a good retailer and fitter, Cham would be it, with all the guys that ski way better than I ever will
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