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a lot of green slopes are mountain roads. so quite flat, but narrow.
Maybe look at beginner resorts or smaller resorts in the Maurriene valley.
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@AndreSilva, somewhere like les Houches might be an idea - not because of green runs as they are indeed usually quite flat - but 'cos the skiing is muchly on a plateau at the top of the hill ... so might not trigger any fear of heights...
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@AndreSilva, I would say that Montgenevre is definitely the best place I've been to for what you are looking for. The best time to go there would be early March just after french school holidays. There are lots of wide open gentle runs on the north side and the ski schools are very good too. I would recommend booking her some lessons with Apeak.
Les Saisies would be another good option.
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Have a look at La Rosiere, it has a good range of pistes and the green slopes are at the centre of the village - Front de Neige and Les Eucherts with the added benefit that a number are free to use. The village is recognised as being very good for beginners, it's Ski Esprits most popular resort, with a good selection of ski schools. Once beyond the green pistes there are excellent wide and long blue pistes that will ensure you can make the most of the superb views, in a week you could even get over to La Thuile in Italy for a change of scenery.
Have a look at their website www.larosiere.net for all the details, there are some really good video posts that will show you what to expect.
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Val d'isere has a love wide green area, no cliffs
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Plenty of long, gentle pistes, some through the trees, on genuinely green terrain rather than a road cut in to the hillside, around the Corvara/San Cassiano sector of the Sella Ronda in the Italian Dolomites. Throw in world class scenery and many top notch mountain restaurants and you have a good destination for nervous novices.
In France, Les Gets offers plenty of gentle terrain, plus some great British ski schools.
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@AndreSilva, Alpe D'Huez - the resort itself sits at the edge of a big slightly off flat area which is mostly green runs. It does get a lot of sun, which has its benefits and detriments. A couple of the runs can get busy at times but the area above the Grenouilles/Sagnes doesn't get much/any through traffic
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Sölden has slopes which aren't steep or intimidating at multiple altitudes, but I can't help thinking that it's not the best choice for a complete beginner.
You don't want to be having to carefully avoid bits of a rather large resort in order to find the quiet easy bits you want to play on.
You pay for a lot of stuff you can't use, and people who do use that stuff will get in your way.
It's just not where I'd start. That's also true of pretty much any big name / big area resort.
I'd avoid "big name" places all together, or at least look carefully at where the ski school works with beginners,
consider where everyone else is relative to that, and think about how easy it is for a lone beginner to get there and back etc.
I'd pick a smaller place. You only need a few runs to learn on, and familiarity with them is a positive benefit for nervous learners.
You don't want to have to compete with people looking for something very different
If you absolutely must go to a "big name" place, then pick somewhere which has the name for reasons other than the amount and range of skiing available.
Think small not big.
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@AndreSilva, on the assumption your wife can cope with lifts then look for places where the nursery slopes are up the mountain rather than clustered around the bottom lifts. This might sound odd but the worst snow is almost inevitably on the lowest slopes, much easier to learn on decent snow rather than ice or mush. Some places have wide fairly flat areas next to the mid stations which are ideal for beginners. You can then take the lift back down to avoid the inevitable crowds on the way home.
Some Austrian examples would be
St Anton actually has a perfect nursery area at Gampen, wide gentle area with good snow, though St Anton is hardly ideal for moving on from there. Another place is Brixen (good for lots of Dutch folk too) where the lift goes up to Hochbrixen which has a good variety of nursery and easy slopes with not a cliff in sight, SkiWelt has lots of friendly skiing to so ideal for moving on. Serfaus is another place where there is a focus on learning and has a large high nursery area. If you are keen on Sölden, perhaps Obergurgl might be better for a nervous novice, a good few high easy slopes, though not so much to keep a more accomplished skier occupied after a day or two. The nursery area at Ischgl is situated at around 2100m in front of the top station for the gondolas up from the village, in many ways ideal, no cliffs or drops nearby, potential downside is the crowds and Ischgl does not appeal to everyone.
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Val d'isere has a love wide green area, no cliffs
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Vert is not recommended for beginners.
Alpe d'Huez has an excellent large beginners area right in the centre of town.
However, I would reccomend Covara in the Dolomites for really, really gentle, wide pistes.
@AndreSilva, May I suggest you enroll your wife into some indoor lessons. Snowworld at Langraaf is excellent and I image the one at Zoetermeer is also pretty good. The slopes are gentle and there are no cliffs. During last summer's 40 degree heatwave they were the cool place to be
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I tried to introduce her to ski at Les 2 Alps but failed miserably
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Perhaps that was a mistake? Even with someone who is fairly keen, and NOT afraid of heights, it doesn't often work well for a spouse to become the ski instructor. Some indoor lessons, as suggested by @johnE, would be an excellent start.
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Alta Badia has plenty of gentle cruisers and superb mountain restaurants.
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You know it makes sense.
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Best green slopes are at Courchevel 1850- end of
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Valmorel? That's where we went when my wife was pregnant and decided even a red run was too risky. The whole area was accessible on just greens and blues.
I suspect you are going to have to spend an evening looking at online piste maps, unfortunately quite a lot of web images are poor so you need some patient searches to find ones that are interpretable.
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Poster: A snowHead
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First off, it might be a good idea to enroll your wife in a ski school... Costs some money, but will give her a way better experience and basis. When people are teaching spouses/family, often what they are teaching is wrong, and the beginner is almost always experiencing unneccessary stress and possibly injuries. Ski teacher education really helps; it makes you see skiing from a completely different perspective. I learned snowboarding by myself; what took me weeks to learn (including 4000 unnecessary falls) I am now teaching to people in three days.
I work at the ski school in Serfaus, and there are some blue slopes (austria doesnt do green) that are nice for beginners. There is also a nice build-up in slopes (first you ski gampen/bärenpiste, then when that works well you ski down to the village, then when that works well you go up Plansegg and by then you're almost on red), although there aren't that many really blue slopes, so the first few days you are limited to these slopes. Once you can ski red, you can go everywhere in the resort, because there is always a blue/red way down.
I haven't skied in many other areas while paying attention to blue slopes so other than that I am not much help... I think Val Thorens also has some blue slopes that are suitable for starting out, but they are pretty busy (at least that's how I experienced them). Courchevel 1850 also had a nice one I remember.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Sierra Nevada has a massive plateau at the half way point with plenty of enormous wide green motorways and some english instructors.
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At the top of the Princess bubble in Megeve there is a green that is about 3.5Km long and as wide as a airport runway, my wife learnt there last year
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Another vote for Alpe D'Huez. Lots of long green runs in the DMC 1800 area
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Alpe d'Huez, Couchevel 1850, Les Saisies and Megeve / St Gervais are all excellent.
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Tue 30-06-20 21:29; edited 1 time in total
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My top picks would be;
Montgenevre - lovely wide green from top to bottom of the mountain, plus lots of other nice runs around. Although to get to the top you do need to ski a slope with a drop on one side, but it's very flat and pretty wide, so shouldn't be so much of an issue - even if this particular slope is an issue, there's still a lot of other nice runs around lower down you can access easily.
Yllas (finland) - I liked how there was always a slope just a little bit harder, no big jumps in difficultly needed, you could work your way up.
I also liked Val Cenis, La Clusaz and Alta Badia.
Avoriaz had some nice greens too, but the week I was there the lift queues to get back up them were ridiculous, so no chance to lap them.
I'm also based in NL, and I love the slope in Landgraaf for practicing and cooling off on hot summers days!
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The Winklmoos in Germany is wide and flat You can move up the mountain into the Steinplatte to get a bit steeper slopes
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Val d'isere has a love wide green area, no cliffs
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Vert is not recommended for beginners.
Alpe d'Huez has an excellent large beginners area right in the centre of town.
However, I would reccomend Covara in the Dolomites for really, really gentle, wide pistes.
@AndreSilva, May I suggest you enroll your wife into some indoor lessons. Snowworld at Langraaf is excellent and I image the one at Zoetermeer is also pretty good. The slopes are gentle and there are no cliffs. During last summer's 40 degree heatwave they were the cool place to be |
agree - not Vert, but the zone tranquille is what I meant
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Another for Alpe d'Huez
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Seem to recall both Megeve and Flaine/Samoens having a large number of green/blue slopes
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Val cenis has some really flat runs and the st Gervais side of megeve as has been said some long gentle runs, our two grandkids came there last year 4 and 7 they covered a fair bit of it.
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Dont forget Scandinavia where the resorts seem to be more on hills than mountains. No fear of a fear of heights on them.
We went to Trysil and the beginner can get around most of the resort on pretty benign slopes , so it gives a great sense of achievement be able to get around so much of it. Not to say it didnt have harder ones too.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@AndreSilva, Alpe D'Huez - the resort itself sits at the edge of a big slightly off flat area which is mostly green runs. It does get a lot of sun, which has its benefits and detriments. A couple of the runs can get busy at times but the area above the Grenouilles/Sagnes doesn't get much/any through traffic |
Trust me didn't I help you here? Arno is spot on.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Here (guess the ski area)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@BoardieK, I just guessed Les Saisies before seeing you had left the name on the bottom.
I agree with you and also recommended it further up this thread.
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Austria.
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As a few others have said, I'd point you at Alpe d'Huez, staying in Alpe d'Huez itself. Not the most attractive resort in the world, but far from the worst either. For beginners it's by some mark the best resort I've visited as about 1/3rd the resort seems to be green runs, not just the usual "Here's the 2 greens you'll be skiing over, and over, and over, and over again for the next 4 days", or "Here's the one green and as soon as you've mastered side-stepping up the slope we'll throw you at blues" you can have elsewhere.
I was in the ski area with a load of beginner friends back in Feb but staying in Oz en Oisans. A much nicer looking place to stay but limited locally to 2 greens and those who picked it up quicker than others soon had "loop fatigue", solved by dragging them up the gondola and showing them the Alpe d'Huez bowl full of greens gave them a new lease of life.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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So many nice tips, thanks guys
Apparently Alpe d'Huez is the winner here! For those that recommended it, do you think it's better compared to Courchevel for beginners ?
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@AndreSilva, not much in it in my opinion. I think the beginner area in Alpe d'Huez is wider, bigger and even flatter than Courcheval, but I think the snow is better in Courcheval. Sadly, like many of us on this forum, it has been a long time since I was a beginner and even then we were on the Austrian reds before the end of the week so our expereince of what a beginner or a nervous skier feels is pretty second hand.
If your wife can cope with Snowworld I am sure she would cope well with the greens and blues in both resorts. As others have said it is perhaps the level of instruction that will make the real difference.
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Alpe d'Huez is the winner here! For those that recommended it, do you think it's better compared to Courchevel for beginners ?
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It's likely to be cheaper, but it's true that Courchevel 1850 (not the other bits) takes a lot of beating for beginners. Some excellent ski schools, too. And world class skiing for more advanced skiers. Just check prices before you pop in anywhere for a hot chocolate or vin chaud
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Alpe d'Huez is the winner here! For those that recommended it, do you think it's better compared to Courchevel for beginners ?
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The beginners "zone" is a bit boring though - In France, I'd go to les Saisies for more variety of flat runs. The great thing about les Saisies is even the blues are green .
Praz sur Lys / Sommand is not a bad option. In a simlar vein Gresse en Vercors.
There are a lot of choices though which are better than l'Alpe d'Huez or Courchevel for beginners though even if I like both resorts. I see l'alpe d'Huez as more a resort for advanced intermediates and experts.
I agree that Austria should have some good areas and perhaps easier on the eye.
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@AndreSilva, ok, I gotta say it, I enjoyed Snowland Gramado for a fun day out, the ice dance show was really good!
The slope es pequeñito, but the town is a great place to visit.
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@AndreSilva, ok, I gotta say it, I enjoyed Snowland Gramado for a fun day out, the ice dance show was really good!
The slope es pequeñito, but the town is a great place to visit. |
WOW, for real ? I never been there(I'm from São Paulo), but how awesome is to find a British guy that been there ?
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