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Summer skiing in Europe?

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Hi everyone. I'm an American that moved to UK this year with the hope of ticking off lots of the European resorts I've always dreamed of skiing. As you can imagine that plan didn't work out so well! Sorry to ask what is probably a stupid question but is skiing possible anywhere in Europe during the summer? If so, any recommendations and what should I expect? Right now I'm willing to take pretty much anything!

I'm a pretty solid skier, prefer off-piste and am happy touring if there is nothing good lift served if that makes a difference.

I don't have the time and money to go to the southern hemisphere, but could go to Georgia or central Asia if that is a better option?
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Sorry I was supposed to post this in the other thread. I will leave it here though as I'm solo and would be happy to find some partners Very Happy
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There is glacier skiing in France(Tignes/L2A), Austria(Hintertux) and Italy(Cervinia) and others but who knows when travel will be allowed again...
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European summer skiing has shrunk around -70% in the past 40 years, due to global boiling.

Glaciers are melting away, like icecubes.

Only a handful of decent summer resorts are left today, in Switzerland, Austria, Italy, France, and Norway.

Zermatt (Switzerland) is the last remaining station that can truly guarantee snow 365 days a year.

Hintertux (Austria) has the biggest and steepest summer area. This is the pick of the bunch -- snow permitting.

Keep in mind that the China death plague will limit international travel thru Europe until at least June, July, or even August.

Also, it was a very poor 2019-2020 winter in Europe, little snow, and a hot, sunny 2020 spring.

The European summer glaciers this year are going to be a mess. Most will probably be unskiable by July or August.

Fonna (Norway) is an exception. It has 50ft of snow on its glacier right now. Tiny resort, tho.

If you want ski touring offpiste, go to Chamonix in June (if laws permit).
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Summer skiing in europe isnt worth it, lifts run for like 2/3 hours a day. Slushy by 11-12

I tend to head to landgraaf latest once a summer just for a fix.
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They were skiing again in Zermatt, Val d'Isere and Les 2 Alpes last weekend Very Happy
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2 Alpes not open to the public until 27th. Just the french team training up there atm.
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Claude B wrote:
2 Alpes not open to the public until 27th. Just the french team training up there atm.


I think it is open at the w/e, no?

What is the accommodation situation like? At ADH hotels have been shuttered for this summer, not worth opening. We've just had our Italian hotel cancelled (but have an alternative, if we can even go). In Rome 40 hotels out of 2000 are open, similar in Milan apparently. The Italian govt. has offered a lot less help than the UK (for example) and the sector is going to be devastated. In France (despite #fakenews on the TV news) reservations are thin on the ground for the summer.
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Summer ski area in Saas Fee opening up as well on July 12th. Last year it was a bit ropey, but there's a lot of snow there now and its looking pretty good - it is predominantly occupied by racers though. If you like touring, there is plenty of snow right now above 2800 metres all across the Swiss alps, avalanche risk is fairly spicy though.
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@davidof, It was originally publicised as open but in fact wasn't open to the public. Some friends went down early on Saturday and were turned away.

Some hotels are opening, I'm not sure which. French team are in Chalet Mounier 4* which I think opened just for them. I saw people going into Airelles too.

Shame as it looks good up there this morning above the clouds.
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La Grave has been open too, but looks to be restricted in similar ways to L2A.
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I drove through La Grave on Wednesday and fancied a beer after a hike. It was like a ghost town, no chance.
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@Claude B, I would guess that most of the people skiing there don't drink beer, there was a report here.
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Same here in a normal summer. Skiers are mainly race training and many too young also. Snowpark attracts a different crowd and along with MTB guys keep the bars busy enough
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Claude B wrote:
@davidof, It was originally publicised as open but in fact wasn't open to the public.


thanks for clearing that up,
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Nice video here, in french, of the french team training in the snow yesterday.

https://www.ledauphine.com/skichrono/2020/06/09/tessa-worley-et-l-equipe-de-france-rechaussent-aux-deux-alpes?fbclid=IwAR30RYdEmvR2_JhyzEN7sOUZqOJCGg2eYJog12ztWh3J8itEhK9AMYD__ZQ
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Whitegold wrote:
Hintertux (Austria) has the biggest and steepest summer area. This is the pick of the bunch -- snow permitting.


I was thinking of going to Hintertux to ski this Friday and Saturday but decided against it as it's too far for just two days (5.5 hrs each way in the car from here). Plus I have to be back in Vienna for father's day on Sunday.
Weather does look good for this weekend though after a bit of fresh snow this week and still sub zero temps up high. After this weekend it looks to be warming up.
https://www.bergfex.at/hintertux/wetter/berg/

The weather is already too warm further east at Kaprun / Kitzsteinhorn.
https://www.bergfex.at/sommer/kitzsteinhorn-kaprun/wetter/berg/
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Apparently the best snow conditions on the glacier here for the time of year since 2013. It has rained heavily again today with a snowline just above 2000m so more again

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/auvergne-rhone-alpes/isere/isere-glacier-deux-alpes-niveau-record-enneigement-2013-1840884.html?fbclid=IwAR31CYD4AMHMQAgwVTLSh8QZ5jW2fTI5GITvG5eJABgle6gi8K89ZIJlxp8
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20cm yesterday, total of 55cm this week.
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I'm pretty late to this party with ski season just around the corner. However, I do have some insight into summer skiing around Europe.

I'll keep this basic, but my personal opinion is that if you are going on holiday for the sole purpose of skiing...then you should probably wait till winter. You're going to get unpredictable conditions and a very limited ski area. If, however, you want to go on a nice summer holiday to the mountains and maybe ski for a couple of days, then their are some places that might float your boat.

Hintertux is one of the most well known and one of the most reliable. However, the weather (especially visibility) can be sketchy at times. Also, you can literally expect to be skiing in a river at times.

Zermatt might be one of your best options. It's technically got the biggest area (although it seems to be shrinking) and it's got one of the nicest summer ski villages around. However, it's going to cost you an arm and a leg (and everything else!) This pretty much summarises Zermatt pretty well: https://snowsunsee.com/summer-skiing-in-zermatt/

Those are honestly most likely your best two choices. I would advise save your pennies and wait for December (if it's even open!!)
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Danieljw12 wrote:
Summer skiing in europe isnt worth it, lifts run for like 2/3 hours a day. Slushy by 11-12


I couldn't disagree more. Skiing is skiing, so why not ski in July or August if you can? The lifts open at 7.30 am in Tignes in summer, so why not get in 3.5 to 4.5 hours of good skiing before it turns slushy? Anyone saying it isn't worth it isn't (IMHO) a keen skier. No problem with that. Each to their own. But, for those of us who love the sport, 3 or 4 hours on a glacier is a great way to scratch the itch of addiction Very Happy
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JSnow3329 wrote:
Also, you can literally expect to be skiing in a river at times.


Literally incorrect. There aren't any summer skiing glaciers with rivers running down the pistes. rolling eyes
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I'm with @JSnow3329 in saying that yeah, come to the Alps in summer and you'll have a great time hiking and mountain-biking and plain touring around (a convertible would be great). Then if you find yourself near Zermatt, perhaps go for a few days skiing. But if you want the full ski experience, come in the winter, outside the school holidays (be aware we have 'half term' breaks between New Year and Easter).
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@Bergmeister, would suggest you look at the webcams of Hintertux right now. It's not pretty.
https://www.hintertuxergletscher.at/de/skifahren/skigebietsinfo/webcams/
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I wrote about my summer experience this year:
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=4634075
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Steilhang wrote:
@Bergmeister, would suggest you look at the webcams of Hintertux right now. It's not pretty.
https://www.hintertuxergletscher.at/de/skifahren/skigebietsinfo/webcams/


Why's that? Puzzled

I wasn't saying that the pistes aren't mushy, slushy or watery. I was saying that it's incorrect to say that you will "literally be skiing in a river." rolling eyes
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Steilhang wrote:
@Bergmeister, would suggest you look at the webcams of Hintertux right now. It's not pretty.
https://www.hintertuxergletscher.at/de/skifahren/skigebietsinfo/webcams/


I wasn't saying that the pistes aren't mushy, slushy or watery. I was saying that it's incorrect to say that you will "literally be skiing in a river." rolling eyes
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