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Ski boot width and stretching question

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I bought some boots on sale on the internet on spec for my son. Seems he likes them but says they are a bit tight on the sides of his feet, are sore there when he takes them off and his feet are red on the sides.

I just wondered if boots can be easily stretched to increase the width (Rossignol AllSpeed Pros 100 if to makes a difference), who near London could be trusted (I would go to Ski Bartlett normally and I don't like Pro-feet, CEM might be a little far to go to and not sure he would do others boots) and any ideas how much it could cost. I would usually ring around but I imagine not many places are open to talk to at the mo and need to decide to keep or return.

If its tricky and/or costly I will return them.
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ster wrote:
I bought some boots on sale on the internet on spec for my son.....

2500+ posts on a ski forum and you've not sussed that there's your problem right there wink. Unless you're damned lucky the chances of him ending up with a good/correctly fitting boot are going to be pretty slim. It's pretty easy to check length/width but unless you're experienced it's very difficult to assess things like heel width and volume etc.

But as you've got them now then:
- Yes, the majority of boots these days are easily stretched.
- Disregard all street shoe to mondo size conversion charts.
- Before you do anything do a shell check as if the length's off there's no point investing more cash.
- I believe that make/model of boot has a 100mm last width (which will probably be in a 26/26.5 shell) so measure the width of his unweighted foot and compare. The actually width of the boot will get 1/2mm wider as the sizes go up or 1/2mm narrow as the sizes go down. And there's no such thing as a half size in ski boots.
- A correctly fitting footbed might help (actually, they always help as they're the foundation of a good fit) as if his foot is collapsing/spreading under load then the boot will feel tight when it actually isn't. And especially in a new liner that's yet to be heat molded.
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spyderjon wrote:
ster wrote:
I bought some boots on sale on the internet on spec for my son.....

2500+ posts on a ski forum and you've not sussed that there's your problem right there wink. Unless you're damned lucky the chances of him ending up with a good/correctly fitting boot are going to be pretty slim.

But as you've got them now then:
- Yes, the majority of boots these days are easily stretched.
- Before you do anything do a shell check as if the length's off there's no point investing more cash.


Ha. Indeed but they’re for him not me wink

Hes seemed pretty standard, wore my old boots last year and didnt complain. But yes a total punt on these.

Will check the length again to make sure.

So the stretch is doable , just who and how much to go.

More than likely I ‘ll send them back as I can but still thinking.
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ster wrote:
spyderjon wrote:
ster wrote:
I bought some boots on sale on the internet on spec for my son.....

2500+ posts on a ski forum and you've not sussed that there's your problem right there wink. Unless you're damned lucky the chances of him ending up with a good/correctly fitting boot are going to be pretty slim.

But as you've got them now then:
- Yes, the majority of boots these days are easily stretched.
- Before you do anything do a shell check as if the length's off there's no point investing more cash.


Ha. Indeed but they’re for him not me wink

Hes seemed pretty standard, wore my old boots last year and didnt complain. But yes a total punt on these.

Will check the length again to make sure.

So the stretch is doable , just who and how much to go.

More than likely I ‘ll send them back as I can but still thinking.


Ha, there is no “pretty standard”. Send them back, go to a place that know about boot fitting. You made a mistake but one that seems could be corrected without much financial consequences.
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I'd guestimate that the average shop rate for mods to boots not purchased from the store would be £40-£50 per hour inc VAT. A specialist will cost more. Footbeds will run from £30 for an off the shelf to £80-£150 for a custom product depending upon the type.
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I took a pair of boots to CEM once that I'd purchased elsewhere for footbed and modification. Cost about £150 iirc - without the footbed I'd imagine £50.

Bit difficult with kids with growing feet to blow the cash for a properly fitted boots - up to now (ours are 12 and 14) we've bought mostly second hand or off the shelf in sales.
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@ster, If he's finding them uncomfortable wandering around the house for a short while (I assume) then he's going to be in serious pain if they are worn a full day. Unless you buy a custom footbed and chance it, good investment anyway and he can move from boot to boot. Rossi's are a narrow last boot in my experience, I don't even consider them for my wide feet if i'm looking, for the very reason you describe.

On balance i'd send them back, (or ebay them if they were cheap, save on postage but run the risk of nobody buying them for 7-8 months) - blowing footbeds out for a young person who'se feet will likely change in next few months anyway seems a waste of time (and money) imo, his feet could be totally different size in 9-10 months time anyway I'd have thought, assuming he's still growing.
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If he's finding them uncomfortable wandering around the house for a short while (I assume) then he's going to be in serious pain if they are worn a full day.


wewaring in house no substitution for wearing for purpose. So... not necessarily.

You can always make bigger. Shell check per SJ essential. If OK, stretch em.
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