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This is probably a really stupid question
Hubby is considering some Decathlon boots than come with themo mouldable liners - so you heat them up in the over for a "custom" fit
Will this make the fit "tighter" or "looser"... ?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The idea is that you soften the liner material when you heat it up so they mould to the shape of your foot and stay that shape when they cool down.
Subsequently, when you put on your boots and tighten them up they hold the foot firmly all over (with the exception of the toes that you don't want to cramp).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If the liner is the correct size then heating will soften it, enabling to mould around/over the lumps and bumps on your feet. AFAIK, thermo-fitted liners do not contract where there is too much space.
Somebody like CEM or Spyderjon would be able to give you chapter and verse on the subject.
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@skimummk,
It will make the tight bits a bit looser and the not very tights probably ( hopefully) a bit tighter...
Thus, the internal shape of the liner should mold to the shape of your foot/ankle/heel bone /shin etc. but manufacturers of liners all have degrees of customisation - you can't expect a low cost thermo moldable line to completely conform perfectly as a £150 to £200 liner. Ask, please don't assume too much - ask - their gear may be budget end but i increasingly see more and more 'WEDGE' ( decathlon brand) gear on the slopes...
ABOVE all else, the way to a perfect ski fitting boot is choosing the best fitting, plastic outer shell of the boot. Fitting boots can be a professional subject which searching on google will yield much practical advice.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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And for clarification that should not, ideally, be your home oven, but one in a fitting shop.
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| skimummk wrote: |
This is probably a really stupid question
Hubby is considering some Decathlon boots than come with themo mouldable liners - so you heat them up in the over for a "custom" fit
Will this make the fit "tighter" or "looser"... ? |
get them heated in the shop. Cooking them in the oven will prob ruin them, due to irregular temperatures. Hot & Cold Spots, etc.
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Thanks for the advice - if he gets them I think he is going to ski in them for a couple of days, then take them to a shop in resort to get them "fitted"
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Errrm - I hate to say it, but that's probably the worst thing that he could possibly do - I would expect the liners to be quite/very uncomfortable until they have been heat moulded to his foot shape!
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If you are going to buy boots at full price in a shop, buy them from a shop who actually can fit them (at least can heat liners).
Heat mouldable liners will probably adapt to your foot shape eventually if you ski long and warm enough to make that happen - but it's really not what they're designed to do, as @oui4ski says, and defeats buying nice new well-fitting boots.
You don't really buy boots new and break them in for a bit first, then get them fitted: you buy new boots and as part of the buying process get them fitted to suit you. If the boots don't fit in the first place, you shouldn't buy them.
Either buy them unmoulded and take them straight to a resort shop before skiing, or better still buy boots direct from that in-resort fitting shop up front.
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Errrm - I hate to say it, but that's probably the worst thing that he could possibly do - I would expect the liners to be quite/very uncomfortable until they have been heat moulded to his foot shape!
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Actually it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Intuition say that you can either allow the lines to mold naturally through body heat and use or accelerate it by heat molding.
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| Mr.Egg wrote: |
| skimummk wrote: |
This is probably a really stupid question
Hubby is considering some Decathlon boots than come with themo mouldable liners - so you heat them up in the over for a "custom" fit
Will this make the fit "tighter" or "looser"... ? |
get them heated in the shop. Cooking them in the oven will prob ruin them, due to irregular temperatures. Hot & Cold Spots, etc. |
You definitely could ruin them with a domestic oven if you over do it.
But to say that you "probably will" is tantamount to saying you are a moron. It's really not hard to do at home if you have an ounce of sense.
But a shop would be better if you have one handy of course
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The instructions that come with the boots say "wear for 2 days then heat them up" - they are designed for "home heating" at 80 degrees in a home oven
These are not high performance boots, and he's not a high performance skier - to be honest he is still debating whether to just keep hiring cos his hire boots have always been "good enough" - I just thought it would be nice for him to have some that hadn't had other people's stinky feet in them. When I bought my boots years and years ago I only had to wear them 3 weeks to have saved the hire fees but hire prices have got comparitively cheaper - we just booked the hire kit last night and he pointed out that the boots are only 25E so even in these really cheap boots he'd need to get 5 weeks out of them just to break even and we are weight restricted on the flight unless we pay for an extra bag (which costs more than the flight did).
So, we've hired the boots anyway - and IF we have enough weight limit he'll take the Decathlons with him and try them and if we don't we'll get a refund when we get back.
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@skimummk, The only "risk" to me is that someone would buy the size of Decathlon boot that feels comfortable in the shop then find them too big when the liner moulds around their feet.
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